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Old 04-08-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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Glenda the Christian baker sells wedding cakes. Since she's a Christian baker, all of her wedding cakes come with a figurine with a man and a woman on top. All of her cakes also feature a cross in the design.

Jayson and Micheal are getting married (same-sex, in case the names didn't give it away) and go to Glenda's Christian bakery to buy a cake. She tells the couple that she will sell her Christian wedding cake as described above to them, but will not make any alterations to the figurines or the content. Being a same-sex couple, Jayson and Micheal decline and protest against Glenda's Christian bakery.

My question: do you think Glenda is discriminating against Jayson and Micheal, or is she not? Discuss.

 
Old 04-08-2015, 11:42 AM
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Glenda the Christian baker sells wedding cakes. Since she's a Christian baker, all of her wedding cakes come with a figurine with a man and a woman on top. All of her cakes also feature a cross in the design.

Jayson and Micheal are getting married (same-sex, in case the names didn't give it away) and go to Glenda's Christian bakery to buy a cake. She tells the couple that she will sell her Christian wedding cake as described above to them, but will not make any alterations to the figurines or the content. Being a same-sex couple, Jayson and Micheal decline and protest against Glenda's Christian bakery.

My question: do you think Glenda is discriminating against Jayson and Micheal, or is she not? Discuss.
No. She sells a specific product. She didn't turn them down, just simply declined to make a change to her product to cater to them. They could have taken the cake, and purchased their own toppers to swap out.

The couple can go to another bakery that offers "customization" if they want to.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 11:43 AM
 
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Glenda the Christian baker sells wedding cakes. Since she's a Christian baker, all of her wedding cakes come with a figurine with a man and a woman on top. All of her cakes also feature a cross in the design.

Jayson and Micheal are getting married (same-sex, in case the names didn't give it away) and go to Glenda's Christian bakery to buy a cake. She tells the couple that she will sell her Christian wedding cake as described above to them, but will not make any alterations to the figurines or the content. Being a same-sex couple, Jayson and Micheal decline and protest against Glenda's Christian bakery.

My question: do you think Glenda is discriminating against Jayson and Micheal, or is she not? Discuss.
No, as long as she's never sold a cake without a man/woman figurine pair and a cross.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 11:43 AM
 
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Nope, no discrimination unless she accommodates changes for other customers and refused to do it for the gay couple because they are gay.


See how easy and logical that was?
 
Old 04-08-2015, 11:44 AM
 
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My question: do you think Glenda is discriminating against Jayson and Micheal, or is she not? Discuss.
Based on what you describe, no, she did not discriminate. It's obvious she would not have any Male & Male figurine kits in stock.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 11:55 AM
 
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Glenda the Christian baker sells wedding cakes. Since she's a Christian baker, all of her wedding cakes come with a figurine with a man and a woman on top. All of her cakes also feature a cross in the design.

Jayson and Micheal are getting married (same-sex, in case the names didn't give it away) and go to Glenda's Christian bakery to buy a cake. She tells the couple that she will sell her Christian wedding cake as described above to them, but will not make any alterations to the figurines or the content. Being a same-sex couple, Jayson and Micheal decline and protest against Glenda's Christian bakery.

My question: do you think Glenda is discriminating against Jayson and Micheal, or is she not? Discuss.
No. It's like walking into a Rolls Royce store and demanding they attach a BMW logo on the car.

It is becoming painfully obvious the bakeries are being targeted by people who are just looking to sue for a quick buck.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 12:06 PM
 
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It is becoming painfully obvious the bakeries are being targeted by people who are just looking to sue for a quick buck.
I see no evidence of that whatsoever. What's your evidence?
 
Old 04-08-2015, 12:06 PM
 
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Wow....here is something never discussed before.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 12:07 PM
 
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Glenda the Christian baker sells wedding cakes. Since she's a Christian baker, all of her wedding cakes come with a figurine with a man and a woman on top. All of her cakes also feature a cross in the design.

Jayson and Micheal are getting married (same-sex, in case the names didn't give it away) and go to Glenda's Christian bakery to buy a cake. She tells the couple that she will sell her Christian wedding cake as described above to them, but will not make any alterations to the figurines or the content. Being a same-sex couple, Jayson and Micheal decline and protest against Glenda's Christian bakery.

My question: do you think Glenda is discriminating against Jayson and Micheal, or is she not? Discuss.
Nope. If that is the ONLY wedding cake design she sells to anyone, then she does not have to make something different for this couple.
 
Old 04-08-2015, 12:11 PM
 
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