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us debt per capita (if you split it up by everyone in population ) is 58K per person.....Norway is 131k per person
Are you aware that the net debt I pointed to and what you are referring to are two different things? You are including personal debt, not the country's debt
Norway's trust fund is at almost one TRILLION dollars. I think they'll be OK.
Are you aware that the net debt I pointed to and what you are referring to are two different things? You are including personal debt, not the country's debt
Norway's trust fund is at almost one TRILLION dollars. I think they'll be OK.
I am referring to the link...it shows US debt at 17.9 trillion which is our NATIONAL debt (NOT including personal debt)....the link show norways NATIONAL debt at 737 billion(3/4 trillion)..NOT including personal debt...NATIONAL debt
and to say that Norway has a trust fund... so does the usa...supposedly we have a trillion dollar SS trust fund....but it doesn't REALLY exist
sorry but noway is in WORSE condition than the USA...not by much...but certainly not number 1 which you seem determined to want to say
Canada certainly is culturally and ethically diverse, probably even more so than the USA. Comoparable personal taxes, less corporate taxes, taxpayer funded universal healthcare tht 96% of Canadians wouold not want changed as comapred to the US, and our budget will be balanced this year, and the debt paid down. That is not even on the horizon for the US.
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Canada is diverse if you considered a population of English, French, Scottish, Irish, German, Italian, and a smattering of everyone else as 'diverse'.
I wonder if those who criticize a European system like Norway's ever think about the fact that not everyone's highest priority in life is to get super-rich, become No.1 and spend his all life on getting there. Most people will never make it to super-rich anyway. A lot of people would rather spend more time on family, childraising, doing a job that is enjoyable even if it does not pay all that well, travelling, educating themselves, spiritual pursuits, sport etc., while not being considered losers for it, than become locked in an endless rat race the modern America offers you.
This is loser talk. If this is the new mindset in this country we're doomed. If weren't for people chasing money and wanting to be "No. 1" we wouldn't have computers and internet that you're using right now to type on. We wouldn't have airplanes and cars and smart phones, and radios, tv's and cable, and Google, Amazon, steel and electricity, advances in medicine.
A lot of people also confusing Norway with Sweden and vice versa
For those of you who have never had the pleasure of going to Stockholm, walking through Södermalm, and seeing the impressively diverse group of people and lifestyles milling about perhaps you think Scandinavia has a monolithic culture.
Maybe those of you who don't spend a significant time there don't understand that by 2050 1/3rd of the Swedish population won't even be born in Sweden.
Perhaps you haven't gone for a midsummer's stroll on Karl Johans Gate in Oslo. People from all around the world. Look at pictures of the Norwegian National Football Team. Alex Tettey (That's Ghanian), Mohammed Abdellaoue, and Tarik Elyounoussi. Elyounoussi is the current captain of Norway's football team. He was born in Morocco.
In fact, in one Norwegian paper, in an article referencing Syttende Mai (Norwegian Independence Day) one commentator commented on happy he was to see children of all different backgrounds playing together, expressing their generations own form of patriotism. Velkommen til Norge!
In should also be noted that the American conceptualization of all European cultures as similar is quite ignorant and grating. I can assure a Bosnian moving to Sweden is going to have even more of a culture shock than a Mexican in the US. The Balkans and Eastern Europe are no picnic either.
This is loser talk. If this is the new mindset in this country we're doomed. If weren't for people chasing money and wanting to be "No. 1" we wouldn't have computers and internet that you're using right now to type on. We wouldn't have airplanes and cars and smart phones, and radios, tv's and cable, and Google, Amazon, steel and electricity, advances in medicine.
I raise you Volvo, Spotify, Ikea, Ericsson, Nokia, and H&M.
Forbes ranks all of Scandinavia as better countries for entrepreneurs/business than the US. Better infrastructure, better educated people, higher QOL.
US has fallen so far in so many areas, that it is only a myth that it is the best country to live in. That myth may slowly sinking as Americans expand their horizons and travel outside of their country, however it is a well known fact, that most Americans have never been outside their own country so how could they have a clue as to what goes on elsewhere.
What a sad situation.
That's the Social Progress Index, and no surprises there; Scandinavian countries have topped that list for decades already. And there are lots of other indexes, such as Human Development Index. Norway is a very nice country, but it is not that populous (4.7 million, like South Carolina). And as others have said here, the US is still a very attractive country for newcomers, and it adds a Norway to its total population every year or so. Norway's largest city, Oslo (metro pop. 915,000), is smaller than metro New Orleans (1.3 million, the 45th largest metro in the US). The two countries are apples and oranges.
These types of lists are constantly brought up, but they fail to tell us anything meaningful because the U.S is such a large country that it's not an apples vs apples comparison. They are composed of different people with vastly different population sizes. Norway's population isn't even as large as New York City's population. Comparing the US to Norway is essentially the same as comparing the entire population of the country with a city.
Honestly the US and Norway shouldn't even be comparable. It is literally apples to oranges.
The United States has 64x the population, and adds the equivalent of half of Norway's entire population or more per year to its population.... and hint: a lot of that is literally imported poverty.
If you don't think those kinds of things matter, look at the challenges faced by larger states in the US with, say, Maine.
I was going to bring up the population issue as well. But it doesn't change the fact that America
is slipping. We have become lazy and indifferent. Not to mention we seem to be breeding a lot of
dummies.
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