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Slavery not only inhibited family formation but made stable, secure family life difficult if not impossible.
A father might have one owner, his "wife" and children another.
Family separation through sale was a constant threat.
What impact might this have had on black men who were being denied the right to determine the status of their children even though they lived in a patriarchal society in which men were generally dominant?
Yes, it's definitely a problem in the black community, particularly the poor black community, much more so than the poor white community.
When something like nearly 80% of black children are born to single moms and you have mothers with multiple children from multiple fathers, that shows there isn't a value placed on being married to have children and raising children in a two parent household. Therefore, many (not all) black fathers don't see it as their responsibility to have just as much involvement in their child's life as the mother.
This is a revolving door that won't change until the culture changes and I'm convinced this is the single greatest problem in the black community that then leads to high crime rates, high incarceration rates, low marriage rates, etc, etc. etc. The cycle will just keep repeating itself until the culture changes.
As someone else mentioned, wedlock doesn't mean absent. My first kid was born a year before I married her mother(we just had too much stuff on our plates and very little money), and we had three more kids after marriage and are still married.
Slavery not only inhibited family formation but made stable, secure family life difficult if not impossible.
A father might have one owner, his "wife" and children another.
Family separation through sale was a constant threat.
What impact might this have had on black men who were being denied the right to determine the status of their children even though they lived in a patriarchal society in which men were generally dominant?
Are you blaming something that was occurring over 140 years ago?
Wow, the immigrants who came to this country in the 20th century done blame what happened to them.
What it means to be "absent" has changed now, expanded even.
It includes fathers who live in the house with their kids, but never interact with them because they work too much or are more interested in the internet or are simply lousy, neglectful, stressed out dads. This is evident in silicon valley for instance (where very few black people exist). In this age of techies, a father works so much, he is rarely home. When he is home, he spends more time on his computer working on apps than he does interacting with his kids. When I worked as a software engineer in the valley, I worked with many white guys who spent most of their time at work, even though they had kids. They were at work when I arrived in the morning and there after I left at night. They were always complaining about the problems their kids were having. Their kids were not doing well in school, exhibiting behavioral problems, and on a couple of occasions, tried to commit suicide. I know a few Asian families where similar problems occurred. In one family, the father worked so much that eventually it caused the breakup of his marriage. While he and his wife were separated, when he had the kids, he would take them to work, where they would spend the entire time doing homework, with little to no interaction from him. He even complained to the school they attended to give them more work, and the school obliged. I was close to those kids since the girl was my daughter's best friend, and she often confided in my daughter detailing stories of neglect and mistreatment. I ultimately had to intervene to stop the abuse after this son wrote me a letter asking for my help (with the help of his mom). Eventually, his ex-wife remarried and got full custody of their two kids, but he was a lousy father.
No, not a predominately "black" problem. How absurd to suggest so. Lousy, absent dads exist in every race.
What it means to be "absent" has changed now, expanded even.
It includes fathers who live in the house with their kids, but never interact with them because they work too much or are more interested in the internet or are simply lousy, neglectful, stressed out dads. This is evident in silicon valley for instance (where very few black people exist). In this age of techies, a father works so much, he is rarely home. When he is home, he spends more time on his computer working on apps than he does interacting with his kids. When I worked as a software engineer in the valley, I worked with many white guys who spent most of their time at work, even though they had kids. They were at work when I arrived in the morning and there after I left at night. They were always complaining about the problems their kids were having. Their kids were not doing well in school, exhibiting behavioral problems, and on a couple of occasions, tried to commit suicide. I know a few Asian families where similar problems occurred. In one family, the father worked so much that eventually it caused the breakup of his marriage. While he and his wife were separated, when he had the kids, he would take them to work, where they would spend the entire time doing homework, with little to no interaction from him. He even complained to the school they attended to give them more work, and the school obliged. I was close to those kids since the girl was my daughter's best friend, and she often confided in my daughter detailing stories of neglect and mistreatment. I ultimately had to intervene to stop the abuse after this son wrote me a letter asking for my help (with the help of his mom). Eventually, his ex-wife remarried and got full custody of their two kids, but he was a lousy father.
No, not a predominately "black" problem. How absurd to suggest so. Lousy, absent dads exist in every race.
You're pulling out a very specific case or a few specific cases. But, the facts and statistics don't lie.
80% of black children are born to single mothers and I'm sure that in a large majority of those cases, the fathers are not very involved.
This culture of "it's OK to have children out of wedlock" is what is really the most damaging factor in the black community.
Where was your white mother this whole time? Sounds like they were both young and wanted to continue being young instead of being responsible adults.
I know your father did you wrong but he sounds like he has a family and hasn't abandoned them for 25 years or so...
Unfortunately, you weren't in your parents plans and that's a horrible way to live but you had grandparents and made it out. I wouldn't focus on Black fathers, just focus on being a better father when your time comes.
Are you blaming something that was occurring over 140 years ago?
Wow, the immigrants who came to this country in the 20th century done blame what happened to them.
In part yes. 140 years is not long to sort out up to several centuries of damaging slavery. The immigrants who came to this country in the 20th century were not brutally taken from their home countries. They were not treated like property, ripping families apart for commerce. Denied education, given almost nothing except religion.
Why am I wasting my keystrokes, if you don't see/know the difference, you are beyond educating.
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