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Old 04-25-2015, 09:36 AM
 
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I don't think people ever will see the world for what it actually is, the world that people have created for people to exist in and believe to be real.

It's all a fabrication or construct to extract the wealth and life force from the ignorant masses without their noticing.

Regarding religion and business ; religion is part of a "people management scheme" that has existed for many centuries and evolved along with the needs of the managers of the masses as the masses have gained knowledge and insight to the bull**** they spew with better education.

In the not so distant past the "serf" was not even allowed to read as it was in the south more recently with slaves the old U.S..

If people were not so utterly terrified of reality they wouldn't need fairy tales to ease their troubled minds like little kiddies before bedtime to ease their fears of the monster under the bed.

Everything people think is real exists only through faith and if they lost faith in it, it would no longer be.

Everything is based on the wrong thing, that's why nothing seems to work well enough for enough people in this world.

If there is a feller up in the sky he laughs at us, or maybe he is just busy with more important things than children who refuse to grow up.
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:02 AM
 
Location: North America
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Not from a public job. Private job yes. Government cannot discriminate based upon religion. We the people told them the government, that a long time ago. A private business can.
Yes, they can. Questions and Answers: The Application of Title VII and the ADA to Applicants or Employees Who Experience Domestic or Dating Violence, Sexual Assault, or Stalking. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. No where in the civil rights act does it state that it only applies to a private business. It's not discriminating based on religion as long as they make reasonable accommodations for you. If however you continue proselytizing as a school principal then you can be canned for it.
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Title VII, the ADA, and GINA cover all private employers, state and local governments, and education institutions that employ 15 or more individuals. These laws also cover private and public employment agencies, labor organizations, and joint labor management committees controlling apprenticeship and training.

The ADEA covers all private employers with 20 or more employees, state and local governments (including school districts), employment agencies and labor organizations.

The EPA covers all employers who are covered by the Federal Wage and Hour Law (the Fair Labor Standards Act). Virtually all employers are subject to the provisions of this Act.

Title VII, the ADEA, GINA, and the EPA also cover the federal government. In addition, the federal government is covered by Sections 501 and 505 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, as amended, which incorporate the requirements of the ADA. However, different procedures are used for processing complaints of federal discrimination. For more information on how to file a complaint of federal discrimination, contact the EEO office of the federal agency where the alleged discrimination occurred.

It also violates the first amendment if you want to be technical about it.
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Seymour, CT
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You just summarized why Christianity came about.
HA! Christianity defines these types of things, and how you can go about stoning people to death, owning slaves, ruling over women etc.

That's not to say that these things aren't found in just about every other major religion. Don't go thinking that Christianity is innocent though LOL!
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Old 04-25-2015, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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The High School, Junior High, and the elementary schools here, all have church services on Sundays.
So? Is religion being taught in the school during the school day? Are school employees leading prayers? Or are the buildings just being used? Do the congregations that use the schools reimburse the public for their use?

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Tell that to the Declaration of Independence.
The 1st amendment is not there to just discuss the weather.
It is there so We The People, can discuss very, very, very... controversial things without punishment or harm, from our governments, or any other individual.
The 2nd amendment protects the 1st amendment, when punishment, force and harm, is tried to restrict it, in any form.
The thread is about religion, not free speech. Free speech does not give you the right to impose your religious beliefs on someone else.

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That is why 1st impressions are so important. That could be the determining factor if I wish to associate with you or not. I discriminate daily based upon 1st impressions. Then your character takes over and I may still not wish to associate with you. That is MY CHOICE. NOT YOURS to make for me.
You are free to associate with anyone you want to. That does not give you the right to impose your religious beliefs on someone else or violate laws against discrimination in business dealing.

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He has every right of freedom to do it. He also has the pressure from what it will bring.
But guess what, he cannot be fired for his religious beliefs and expressing them. He can be repositioned, but not fired.
This has already been addressed, but if the school principal is preaching during school hours, it is likely to get his employer in trouble. He might or might not lose his job. It would depend, I suspect, on whether or not he stopped preaching at school.
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Old 04-25-2015, 04:54 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Yes, they can. Questions and Answers: The Application of Title VII and the ADA to Applicants or Employees Who Experience Domestic or Dating Violence, Sexual Assault, or Stalking. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. No where in the civil rights act does it state that it only applies to a private business. It's not discriminating based on religion as long as they make reasonable accommodations for you. If however you continue proselytizing as a school principal then you can be canned for it.



It also violates the first amendment if you want to be technical about it.

You mean the protected class?
Isn't that unconstitutional? Government treating one class of people differently than others.

Isn't government to treat all equally?
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Old 04-25-2015, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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You mean the protected class?
Isn't that unconstitutional? Government treating one class of people differently than others.

Isn't government to treat all equally?
The idea of protected classes arose because some people were not treating everyone equally, with government approval, and had to be told that is not acceptable.

Neither government nor businesses can discriminate against anyone.
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Old 04-26-2015, 07:57 AM
 
Location: North America
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You mean the protected class?
Isn't that unconstitutional? Government treating one class of people differently than others.

Isn't government to treat all equally?
This is about just how much an entity has to accommodate you in regards to your religious beliefs. There are strings of court cases that rule in favor of religious beliefs. From Courts saying that police must accommodate the beards of Jewish police officers to allowing teachers, to keep a bible on their desk in open display of students, and also determining that stores have to allow accommodation towards religious clothing. An employee can also tell people that they are a Christian, and can talk about it at work. The line is crossed when it becomes proselytizing though, and allowing them to continue creates an undue hardship for the operations of organization.
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Old 05-24-2015, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Meridian Id
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Default Freedom of religion not a Biblical concept.

The Bible dose not support freedom of religion. In fact the Bible is very clear that we are not to have other Gods. Freedom to worship the One True God is what the Pilgrims came to America for. Freedom of religion is an effort to allow unlimited worship of anything we want to call god. How did we ever accept this concept?
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Old 05-24-2015, 10:51 PM
 
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The Bible dose not support freedom of religion. In fact the Bible is very clear that we are not to have other Gods. Freedom to worship the One True God is what the Pilgrims came to America for. Freedom of religion is an effort to allow unlimited worship of anything we want to call god. How did we ever accept this concept?
It was freedom from the Catholics, that's wut!
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Old 05-24-2015, 10:54 PM
 
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The Bible dose not support freedom of religion. In fact the Bible is very clear that we are not to have other Gods. Freedom to worship the One True God is what the Pilgrims came to America for. Freedom of religion is an effort to allow unlimited worship of anything we want to call god. How did we ever accept this concept?
Gods are an envious bunch.
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