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Another post to vent about blacks, why am I not surprised? Why am I not surprised that one finds a video of some dumbass thugs posting themselves fighting for attention and using it to paint a picture about blacks. For some reason I highly doubt that you have never met a decent black person because I meet and see them every day. Even the ones that wear urban attire and use ebonics can be decent. Furthermore, I use slang at times but I also use proper English the majority of the time. Another thing, why the hell is it MY job to police the entire black population? You want me to call ****ery what it is? I'll gladly do that but don't expect for me to be your mouthpiece.
Because Whites (the majority of which are middle class and higher) have an implicit behavior code among each other where their behavior is expected to adhere to certain standards or criteria. Since the overwhelming majority do so, they also expect the same code exists in Black America.
Black America (the majority of which is working class and some have recently entered the middle class within the past few decades) does not have that same type of code for a number of reasons. First, there is a large range of behaviors among Black people and it is not as coalesced as White America. It would be more easily assessed household by household instead of on a micro-level. Secondly, for the most part the White underclass is a smaller percentage of White Americans and they are humble and unassuming. The Black underclass is a larger percentage of Black America and they are loud, arrogant, rude, rebellious, belligerent, and quicker to turn to violence than their White counterparts. Consequently, they are generally not the type of people that you can talk to and reason with. Most feel they know everything and refuse to listen to advice that directs them to address their issues.
Another fact, the sense of honor, dignity, shame, stigma, and disgrace no longer exist in Black America as it did say 40+ years ago. For a myriad of reasons, Black dignity and expectation of behavior has disappeared and been replaced by "keeping it real", "staying true to BLACK", and "being STRONG (usually in reference to being proud to be a single unwed mother)". All of these slogans are usually tied to low standards in one way or another.
Unlike White America, middle and upper class Blacks have no real influence over their lower classes' behavior at this time in history because the more and values of the lower class presently dominates Black culture. In White culture, the White underclass have been relegated to rural America -- out of sight, out of mind. They don't buck the system. Black lower class are born in and drawn to urban America so their behavior is very much on public display. So when Whites ask "why can't Blacks police other Blacks' bad behavior?" Answer: because Blacks are not a monolithic group who agrees to adhere to a single set of social codes or behavior nor is the Black middle class large enough to dominate Black life yet. Instead the Black lower-class continues to dominate as they have since the crack epidemic started during the 1980's.
No parallel is perfect but it's pretty close. In many respect the average Polish, Jewish, Italian or Russian immigrants had little choice about being here as well. All arrived penniless. All received little or no help from the government. Less than modern blacks.
And yet where are their riots?
What part of immigrant do you know understand? An immigrant has a choice to go to another country or not. A slave does NOT. An immigrant has no real reason to hold a grievance against a country that he/she WIILINGLY came to. If they don't like they can always return home and be easily reabsorbed back into their society. A slave does hold a GRIEVANCE against a country and a people that has inflicted the hell of slavery and Jim Crow upon he and his/her family and his people. It does not take many generations to recover from being an immigrant. It takes many generations to recover from being in slavery and dealing with Jim Crow.
Wow, how you could attempt to compare an immigrants life in America with a slave's life is absolutely mind-boggling. I'll bet that you didn't even go to a failing, low-income ghetto school. Nevertheless, the school district you attended apparently failed you.
I'll tell you what, why not watch the movie "12 years a Slave" or "The Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman" and "Out of Ireland: The Story of Irish Emigration to America" and come back and tell us which would you'd rather have you and your family subjected to generation after generation for over 100+ years if you had no choice but to endure one of those lifestyles? I wait with bated breath....
Black America (the majority of which is working class and some have recently entered the middle class within the past few decades) does not have that same type of code for a number of reasons. First, there is a large range of behaviors among Black people and it is not as coalesced as White America. It would be more easily assessed household by household instead of on a micro-level. Secondly, for the most part the White underclass is a smaller percentage of White Americans and they are humble and unassuming. The Black underclass is a larger percentage of Black America and they are loud, arrogant, rude, rebellious, belligerent, and quicker to turn to violence than their White counterparts. Consequently, they are generally not the type of people that you can talk to and reason with. Most feel they know everything and refuse to listen to advice that directs them to address their issues.
Another fact, the sense of honor, dignity, shame, stigma, and disgrace no longer exist in Black America as it did say 40+ years ago. For a myriad of reasons, Black dignity and expectation of behavior has disappeared and been replaced by "keeping it real", "staying true to BLACK", and "being STRONG (usually in reference to being proud to be a single unwed mother)". All of these slogans are usually tied to low standards in one way or another.
All this may be quite true. Why is the majority forced to subsidize this foolishness?
Alot of UNDERCLASS Black parents suck at this. This is Memphis. Alot of underclass in that city. This vs Missouri City, Texas, and DeSoto,Texas. Two places I have shown which have strong Black communities and low crime rates, and high income levels. Yet, everyone ignores that.
In my opinion, some people bring up "Black people are causing problems" to vent their anger at Blacks. I don't believe it has alot to do with any real concern for Blacks. Blacks have been looked down on from day one in this nation, so it's a matter of trust.
Blacks are looked down upon because too many of them can't ever seem to get their sh$t together and lift themselves up. And they can't ever seem to live in peace and stop destroying themselves as well as the non-blacks who live around them. And worst of all most refuse to take responsibility for their problems and instead always prefer to blame other things and other people for their predicament.
Also why do you keep bringing up Missouri City and Desoto as examples of black communities that are successful, relatively peaceful and low crime? You do understand that these VERY SMALL communities of blacks are mere grains of sand on a huge beach that is 42 million blacks don't you? IE they are STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT.
Its great that we can find small pockets of blacks living mostly peacefully and safely here and there in the US, but are things REALLY that dire that we need to set the bar this low? As I've said before, how about finding a larger black population that is low in crime and violence? We have HUNDREDS of examples of large non-black communities that are low in crime and murder, how come we can't find EVEN ONE black community like that in the ENTIRE US?
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You're nowhere to be found when the perpetrator of a violent crime is white, including the story about almost 100 whites brawling at a beach.
But I get it.
"Your race has more 'problems' than others, therefore you're bad and you should do something about it."
Reminds me of something along the lines of stones, glass and houses.
I'm not concerned about what some kids in Memphis are doing, I'm too busy focusing on my own life, and what I can control, not what someone I have no influence over does.
Since you keep telling other races how to live and what to think about their own race, how about you follow your own advice and worry about your own.
I missed the story where whites were brawling at a beach, but if they were acting like trash I have no problem calling them out for it, something that many blacks can't seem to do when their fellow blacks behave badly.
Also its ABSOLUTELY 100% TRUE that blacks have more problems than anyone else. And this is especially true when it comes to blacks and crime vs. non-blacks and crime and THAT is why non-blacks are complaining about it. I've said it a million times, if blacks had the same crime and murder rates as whites did in the US, I and I'm pretty sure many other people wouldn't be complaining about it all the time. Its the very fact that blacks cause so much trouble and crime not only among themselves but also towards non-blacks is the reason why I'm here to call them out so that people like you can't lie and coverup what's REALLY happening on the streets of America.
Not a peep from him, Waldo, Don, Driller & others. I wonder why...
I watched the video and read the story and I don't see anything what the black man in the video did was wrong. He tried to avoid confrontation and was assaulted and was defending himself. So what's the issue here?
The guy who was aggressive rolled the dice when he attacked and unfortunately for him, he paid with his life. Unlucky for him that his stupid decision cost him his life when if luck was with him he would've survived to perhaps learn from his mistakes. But that's what happens when you go looking for trouble. Sometimes you might get a second chance to change and other times you end up like this guy.
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Just gotta say that this post reeks of condescension and frankly if you came at me like this in real life, I wouldn't want to have a conversation, this would **** me off.
Let's be real here, for the majority of blacks if you aren't saying what they want to hear there is no 'conversation' because they don't ever want to listen to the truth. Namely that they're mostly responsible for most of their problems.
For some reason I don't believe that the OP is remotely interested in the Desoto video. You can tell by the initial post, the real intent of this thread.
the OP probably saw the Desoto video the 592 previous times that green mariner posted it, so pays it no mind now.
the OP probably saw the Desoto video the 592 previous times that green mariner posted it, so pays it no mind now.
just like the rest of us
Because it doesn't fit your narrative of "Black people are bad".
Now, answer this for me. Why should I care what anyone has to say or feel about Black people as a whole, being a Black man? Name one reason why I should care. What is in it for ME?
The Desoto video is interesting, especially since I've read right here on C-D that there were NO successful Black communities.
Oops.
I enjoyed listening to it, and it made me very happy. I get sick of hearing about "Black criminals" and "Black thugs". I want to hear about Blacks who are doing great things. That is why it made me happy to watch.
And the commentary after the news clip was interesting. The person doing the commentary at the end is from Texas himself. He said that for many Black people, the best that can be done is to just walk away from hood rats. You can't make a hood rat behave.
the OP probably saw the Desoto video the 592 previous times that green mariner posted it, so pays it no mind now.
just like the rest of us
The fact remains that such examples are few and far between, so it makes sense that the same two examples would have to be continuously brought up to argue this point.
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The Desoto video is interesting, especially since I've read right here on C-D that there were NO successful Black communities.
Oops.
That's a straw man. More realistically, these examples are, as I noted, few and far between.
Because it doesn't fit your narrative of "Black people are bad".
Now, answer this for me. Why should I care what anyone has to say or feel about Black people as a whole, being a Black man? Name one reason why I should care. What is in it for ME?
No , because you post the same video over and over and over again.
I don't give a rat's ass 'what's in it for YOU.''
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The ignorance is overwhelming sometimes
