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Old 04-25-2015, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Also, why shouldn't the news organizations that perpetuate these false charges be liable?
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Paul Nungesser, the Columbia University student accused of raping fellow student Emma Sulkowicz, is now suing the university for doing nothing to stop Sulkowicz's harassment campaign against him, which he claims "effectively destroyed" his college experience, reputation, and future career prospects.

His lawsuit contains a wealth of new information about the contested sexual assault, including dozens of messages establishing Sulkowicz's sexual "yearning" for Nungesser, which she sent to him both before and after the alleged incident. (Full text of the lawsuit here, courtesy of KC Johnson.)

Sulkowicz and Nungesser initially became friends at Columbia, developing an intimate relationship that involved several sexual encounters and frequent discussions of sex and relationships. Eventually, she accused him of choking, attacking, and anally raping her. Nungesser was cleared by Columbia's sexual assault adjudication process (the police later declined to pursue charges, citing a lack of probable suspicion), which prompted Sulkowicz to go public with her claims and start carrying her mattress everywhere she went as a form of protest against what she viewed as a miscarriage of justice. She became something of a spokesperson for rape victims, and was even invited to attend the State of the Union address with Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-New York).

There were reasons to doubt Sulkowicz's claims. Reason contributor Cathy Young outlined some of them in a detailed piece for The Daily Beast. Perhaps most damning for Sulkowicz's credibility are friendly messages she sent him, and continued to send, even after he allegedly raped her.

Student Accused of Rape By 'Mattress Girl' Sues Columbia U., Publishes Dozens of Damning Texts - Hit & Run : Reason.com
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Old 04-25-2015, 06:03 PM
 
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The liberal says it would prevent women from reporting.

I frequent a police forum. When they polled the opinion, the number was ranging from 50% to some officers never seen a real rape case. :-(
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Old 04-25-2015, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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Pretty sure you can be, if the accusation gains traction. So if it goes to court, and they lie in court, it's perjury which is a federal crime and can result in jail time.

But that's the issue with rape cases: it's one person's word against the other is the overwhelming majority of rape cases. It's hard to balance the protection of the falsely accused and the punishment of actually dangerous rapists.
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Old 04-25-2015, 07:59 PM
 
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They should get the same exact punishment as the rapist. And they should be on sex offender registries.

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Old 04-25-2015, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I frequent a police forum. When they polled the opinion, the number was ranging from 50% to some officers never seen a real rape case. :-(
Rapists tend to not rape women when cops are watching.
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Old 04-25-2015, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Pretty sure you can be, if the accusation gains traction. So if it goes to court, and they lie in court, it's perjury which is a federal crime and can result in jail time.

But that's the issue with rape cases: it's one person's word against the other is the overwhelming majority of rape cases. It's hard to balance the protection of the falsely accused and the punishment of actually dangerous rapists.
But if it doesn't go to court, the guy still has his life ruined.
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Old 04-25-2015, 09:33 PM
 
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They should get the same exact punishment as the rapist. And they should be on sex offender registries.
Good idea.
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Old 04-25-2015, 09:51 PM
 
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You can be sued in civil court for your false accusations, but there should be laws on the books that punish those who have lied about rape. Crystal Magnum, the Duke lacrosse accuser, was never punished for her false allegations (though she's in prison now for murder).
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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But if it doesn't go to court, the guy still has his life ruined.
Does he though? Surely he can put that behind him if it's not on his record? And if not, then the system is broken (or more so than it obviously already is). I tend to think high profile cases shouldn't exist. Why publicize things so heavily? It doesn't do any good. But can he sue in civil court and make the accuser say she lied?

Besides, I doubt punishing the false accuser will help him any. Kind of like putting a rapist in prison doesn't reverse the rape. Just another reason to not publicize these types of things. Keep it quite and local and allow things to move on when proper action has been taken. I don't need to know who got raped where, especially if I don't live in the same town. I also am pretty forgiving and would happily accept someone who's served their time in jail as part of the community, with the assumption that they won't do it again (and if they do, it will be dealt with).

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You can be sued in civil court for your false accusations, but there should be laws on the books that punish those who have lied about rape. Crystal Magnum, the Duke lacrosse accuser, was never punished for her false allegations (though she's in prison now for murder).
Never heard of Crystal Magnum, but it wounds like quite a wild story.
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:19 PM
 
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Never heard of Crystal Magnum, but it sounds like quite a wild story.
You never heard of the Duke Lacrosse case? You must be really young then.
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