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Old 04-29-2015, 01:54 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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It's not reform it's amnesty. Answer the question, did or didn't Obama say he took EO because the Republicans objected to it? Quit spinning around. You'll make yourself dizzy. I can name several GOP politicians that don't want any amnesty cloaked as reform starting with Senator Jeff Sessions just for starters.

I am well aware of the GOP traitors among us but I am also aware of the patriots in their ranks and that is why Obama took action on his own. I have no use for the three politicians you mentioned. However, I am not aware of Cruz coming out and admitting that he is pro-amnesty but wouldn't doubt that he secretly is. The fact still remains that most of the GOP doesn't want any part of an amnesty.


Bingo


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Old 04-29-2015, 01:54 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Your actual word hrase you used was "it wouldnt be used", which makes the same point, but i shouldnt have to tell you that, they are your words.
no it doesn't 'make the same point.' I know very well what I said, and what you conveniently morphed it into (twice).

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Neither changes the fact that your argument was it doesnt matter who is in charge.

ill give you a minute to actually form a response to what you or your party would do differently.
again, there is no point, as I stated from the beginning. if you want to know governor Hogan's platform I suggest you look it up.
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Old 04-29-2015, 01:59 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 17 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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no it doesn't 'make the same point.' I know very well what I said, and what you conveniently morphed it into (twice).
if they dont use it, does that not mean the same as people wouldnt listen ? Does it not mean they wouldnt govern in this aspect differently.

you are arguing a distinction without out difference.



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again, there is no point, as I stated from the beginning. if you want to know governor Hogan's platform I suggest you look it up.
In other words, you never had an answer for my question. is that simple.
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Old 04-29-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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Let me defend the Democrats here. Lazy idiots are hard to govern. Lazy idiots tend to vote for Democrats. It is much more challenging governing a 75% Democrat city than a 75% Republican one.

Uh, you do know that studies on the matter tend to link lower intelligence to conservative ideologies (https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...x-relationship) people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones


Easy to say, Average Republican believes in some magic god; thinks science is created by the devil to lead us from truth; and thinks global warming is some scheme to make [someone] money (and ignores big oil money)

Dude

glass house
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Old 04-29-2015, 02:16 PM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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If you make that argument in the last 25 years, Republicans had full control of congress for 12 years. Dems had it for 8, the other years have all been mixed(one controlling each house.) You cant blame Dems at a federal level.




I didnt blame Republicans, I simply said you shouldnt blame Democrats.
lol@ your attempt to dip into the past. At the current executive level, the Feds are controlled by the prez, but the point was to show why your logic is a fallacy, not to extend credit to it.


And nope. This is all liberal democrats...they deserve every ounce of the blame at the leadership positions. The people who run the city are running them as Democrats with hardcore, left-wing democratic policies and rhetoric, and these are the results.

There's no disowning that.
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Old 04-29-2015, 03:36 PM
 
Location: North America
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Because Parisians end up overstaying student visas this side of the Atlantic so they can experience a paycheck for the first time in their lives--albeit sous la table.

(And BTW you're wrong on both.)
No, I'm not, but thanks for trying .
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Old 04-29-2015, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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When they don't show up to school for Parent meetings..it's because "they are working 2 jobs".
When they do show up to loot and pillage on a weekday ...it's because "they have no jobs".

You Dems are a fickle bunch.
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Old 04-29-2015, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Uh, you do know that studies on the matter tend to link lower intelligence to conservative ideologies (https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...x-relationship) people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones


Easy to say, Average Republican believes in some magic god; thinks science is created by the devil to lead us from truth; and thinks global warming is some scheme to make [someone] money (and ignores big oil money)

Dude

glass house
Name me even a 50% Republican city that has problems comparable to Baltimore.

I will be waiting.
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Old 04-29-2015, 05:31 PM
 
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Name me even a 50% Republican city that has problems comparable to Baltimore.

I will be waiting.
Name me even a 50% Republican city (period). They're too busy living in mud huts in the middle of nowhere waiting for the gubbermint to come take their guns.
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Old 04-29-2015, 05:43 PM
 
Location: USA
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Pelosi's father and brother were both former mayors of Baltimore back in the SIXTIES, when it was every bit the liberal-created hellhole that it is today, and she's certainly contributed to California having the highest poverty rate of any state in the country as a front page LA Times story pointed out recently and turning into another liberal created hellhole thanks to unrestrained spending and pu!mping out MILLIONS of illiterate school children from coast to coast.

And you wonder why inner city blacks in Baltimore or any other liberal hellhole can't get a job?

Blame Democrats---it's their fault and no one else's, and African-American babyboomers such as yours truly thankfully never drank that kool-aid.
And it just gets worse and worse since the Dems have been running the show. Not that the other side can pull them out either. The people themselves will have to pull their selves out. I have more faith in the people of Baltimore then any lame azz politician.
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