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It's actually sad, to think that these people associate criminals with being black in America, so that making a common reference to criminal activity is now view as applicable to blacks.
Do we ban other words like hood, thug, punk, mugger, gangster, pimp, etc... because some closet racists equates those words to blacks?
Ooooh, I'd like to add looters to that list as well.
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Actually they are. The Protesters have been grouped with the looters.
Thugs, an organized gang of professional assassins. The Thugs traveled in groups across India for six hundred years. Although the Thugs traced their origin to seven Muslim tribes, Hindus appear to have been associated with them at an early period.
Google "Tea Party Racist", and then get back to me...
Tea is Taxed Enough Already, and the basic premise is to get back to limited government. Some how those beliefs are racist according to the left.
Maybe I have a better point than you want to acknowledge.
Yeah, those poor Tea Party members, years of oppression and the subject of violence and discrimination as a minority to the point that there are laws, amendments and policies such as Affirmative Action to...wait a minute....
Actually, you really don't have a point, you are just trying to deflect. I believe there is a poster on this board that would say something along the lines of, "stick to the topic at hand", however they won't, because it would go against their agenda.
As far as googing "Tea Party Racist", umm, not sure what that's supposed to prove? The first few results included an article about terribly racist signs by Tea Party members including, "Hope for the Rope: Change and Estrange", and an article about an African American woman who is a member of the Tea Party.
Google "Tea Party Racist", and then get back to me...
Tea is Taxed Enough Already, and the basic premise is to get back to limited government. Some how those beliefs are racist according to the left.
Maybe I have a better point than you want to acknowledge.
The left gets all kinds of things backwards, it's greedy to want to keep money you earned but not greedy to want what someone else earned, tax deductions are 'subsidies', a reduction in a spending increase is a 'cut', "free" from the goverment doesn't cost anything, disagree with Obama and it's racist, the list goes on and on.
Yeah, those poor Tea Party members, years of oppression and the subject of violence and discrimination as a minority to the point that there are laws, amendments and policies such as Affirmative Action to...wait a minute....
Actually, you really don't have a point, you are just trying to deflect. I believe there is a poster on this board that would say something along the lines of, "stick to the topic at hand", however they won't, because it would go against their agenda.
As far as googing "Tea Party Racist", umm, not sure what that's supposed to prove? The first few results included an article about terribly racist signs by Tea Party members including, "Hope for the Rope: Change and Estrange", and an article about an African American woman who is a member of the Tea Party.
Look, I've read your posts and know you're smarter than this.
Oppression is not a requirement, and has nothing to do with the tactic of using a pejorative word to smear and marginalize a group - unless you are making the case that only minorities and marginal groups can be smeared, and that is simply not a defensible position to take.
The point is, a pejorative word is being used to smear a group.
You are claiming "thug" now qualifies as a "code" word and smear for blacks - I disagree. I am pointing out this "smear" tactic you are citing at the very least cuts both ways, and used the term "racist" to demonstrate that fact - you didn't disagree, you simply attempted to dismiss the issue with this quote:
"Yeah, those poor Tea Party members, years of oppression and the subject of violence and discrimination as a minority to the point that there are laws, amendments and policies such as Affirmative Action to...wait a minute...."
That is a CLASSIC deflection.
Also, in every case I am aware of, after investigation each and every racist sign at a TEA party was held by an operative of the democratic party, or a paid protester from union organizations (usually assumed to support democrat positions).
You seem to be making the case that it is OK to smear groups you are not a part of or disagree with, but not OK to smear groups you are part of and agree with.
Unlike you (and granted I am inferring that from your position on the topic from your post(s) - you have not stated that outright), I think it is ALWAYS wrong to smear groups with a pejorative word to marginalize the group rather than deal with the problems.
I don't disagree we have race problems in the country. I do think it has improved significantly in my life time, and likely will continue to get better over time. I also don't disagree that we have to address those problems. We likely have common ground there.
I disagree with most of the proposed solutions to those problems that generally are tied to subsidizing anti-social behavior, encourage division, and generate an entitlement mentality/dependency class. I suspect that the issue we would not agree on, is how to best address and fix the inequities in society form a structural standpoint.
That doesn't make me a racist any more than it makes you a thug, it means we see the problem and subsequent solutions from a different perspective.
Eventually, one our positions will be proven correct and one will be proven wrong, but history has not been kind to the sort of socialist positions now being advocated for as "solutions" - it takes a generation or so, but they always fall apart when those on the public dole outnumber those being taxed to provide the benefits (and as the white middle class gets sucked more and more into different government subsidies, they actually become the larger problem, because they are a numerically larger population, pulling in an ever larger share of government subsidies).
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i noticed the trend on these forums that people use words like thug, gang-member, welfare-baby to describe black people and things like hill-billy, hick, redneck to describe non-minorities. some recent examples:
Anyone who thinks "thug" is a racist term needs a lobotomy.
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Seriously though, "thug" isn't a racist term. So tired of political correctness.
Anyone who is promoting the idea that "thug" is a racist term is likely a racist themselves.
Think about it. We have a word that has long been understood to refer to people behaving like bullies and miscreants. Now a certain group of people, who appears to view everything through the lens of "race" and is notorious for walking around with a racially hyper-sensensitive chip on their shoulder, creating opportunities to become offended if they do not naturally present themselves often enough, is now trying to redefine this word which just happens to be one of several fair but unflattering descriptive terms used to describe the rioters and looters in Baltimore and elsewhere, who largely are black. They want to limit the use of this term to people of one "race". That is clearly racist.
They are thugs. So were the homo-fascists who conspired together across state lines to terrorize the owners of the Memories Pizza restaurant with the intent to ruin their business, because of their religious beliefs, in what very much appears to be a violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
It is also another attempt by the extreme left political correctness Nazis to impose themselves as overlords ruling over the speech of others.
Look, I've read your posts and know you're smarter than this.
Oppression is not a requirement, and has nothing to do with the tactic of using a pejorative word to smear and marginalize a group - unless you are making the case that only minorities and marginal groups can be smeared, and that is simply not a defensible position to take.
The point is, a pejorative word is being used to smear a group.
You are claiming "thug" now qualifies as a "code" word and smear for blacks - I disagree. I am pointing out this "smear" tactic you are citing at the very least cuts both ways, and used the term "racist" to demonstrate that fact - you didn't disagree, you simply attempted to dismiss the issue with this quote:
"Yeah, those poor Tea Party members, years of oppression and the subject of violence and discrimination as a minority to the point that there are laws, amendments and policies such as Affirmative Action to...wait a minute...."
That is a CLASSIC deflection.
Umm, I have not claimed 'thug' was code for the 'n' word, all I have asked is why Sherman was referred to as a thug, and white athletes/coaches who have done the same or far worse are not? But instead of answering the question, you bring up another, unrelated, irrelevant question. THAT is classic deflection.
What you don't understand is protesting and having signs (especially when the majority of your group is white) wanting to hang and deport our non-white President isn't going to present favorably to others outside of that group, but wait...
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Also, in every case I am aware of, after investigation each and every racist sign at a TEA party was held by an operative of the democratic party, or a paid protester from union organizations (usually assumed to support democrat positions).
Oh of course. Just a big misunderstanding. Of course, it was those damn lefties. I literally could find example after example of Tea Party members/leaders making racist jokes, signs or comments, but I'm sure the jokes and signs were either taken out of context or they're actually the doing of lefties.
You seem to be making the case that it is OK to smear groups you are not a part of or disagree with, but not OK to smear groups you are part of and agree with.
Unlike you (and granted I am inferring that from your position on the topic from your post(s) - you have not stated that outright), I think it is ALWAYS wrong to smear groups with a pejorative word to marginalize the group rather than deal with the problems.
How about not putting words in my mouth? At what point did I say it's "OK", I simply said I don't see these cases of racism towards these poor, poor folks. So it's you inferring, incorrectly, as I haven't seen any substantial evidence of Tea Party members being unfairly called racist. Unfortunately, I'm sure there are Tea Party members who aren't racist, but because of their group affiliation, they're guilty by association, which isn't right. It is definitely unfair to those people. However, they choose to associate with that group, so how much empathy can you really have?
Also, here's the difference. How do you know a Tea Party member when you see one? Do they all drive the same cars? Wear the same clothes?
But you know what? It's pretty easy to spot a black person. Accusing a black person as a thug is a helluva a lot easier than labeling a Tea Party member as racist, someone who chooses to be affiliated with that group.
Context is key. If one calls a black man who robbed a bank and shot a security guard a thug, fine. But when a pro athlete who's never been arrested and has a 3.9 GPA from Stanford has an emotional post-game interview gets called a thug, there might be a problem.
The rest of the post, don't really disagree with most of it.
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Anyone who is promoting the idea that "thug" is a racist term is likely a racist themselves.
Think about it.
You should consider thinking. Before you post.
So why was Richard Sherman referred to as a thug for a non-profanity rant, yet Brian Price cursing out a reporter was just funny?
Are you going to answer that or are you just going to ignore it because you simply can't, like everyone else?
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