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Old 04-29-2015, 09:50 PM
 
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Its ancient history if not for Roberts.
yes but that just means your passing the blame for the bill onto Roberts, and now where it belongs with is those who passed it in the first place.

Didnt Roberts say something to the effect of, its constitutional, but its a POS, but its not his job to protect the nation from garbage legislation?
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Old 04-29-2015, 09:52 PM
 
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That wasn't what the post said. Reagan didn't have a problem tripling the debt. That's what happens when tax revenues fall, whether its because of lower taxes or weaker economy.
By time Obama leaves office, he'll do a pretty dam bang up job of coming close.
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Old 04-29-2015, 09:53 PM
 
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OK Bush cut the taxes and Obama kept it the same, wouldn't a socialist raise taxes even a tiny bit? The ACA isn't socialist, its Romneycare with a new name. A socialist would've pushed forth with single payer universal health care or at the very least a public option for insurance. I still don't understand why conservatives pretend Obama is a socialist since right now he is trying to ram a right wing trade agreement thru Congress. Obama is about on the same level of conservatism as Reagan unfortunately.
ACA passed constitutional authority because Obama argued IT WAS A TAX..

Either its a fricken tax and thus constitutional or its not a tax and illegal. You cant have it both ways and flip flop when it suits you.
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Old 04-29-2015, 09:56 PM
 
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Its up again. And what the OP and his friends forget is that some Republicans want to EXPAND surveillance. Like their buddy Tom Cotton.

WH stops short of veto threat on 'clean' Patriot Act renewal | TheHill
Which of course the left rightfully so, criticize, but I note how you only criticize Republicans.. Not a peep about Democrats.

once again, obama (and the Democrats), renewed and EXPANDED the very same law the left was up in arms over just a decade ago. So of you guys dont even know they signed the bill back into law.
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The problem with conservatives is they will do ANYTHING to grow business. Even if that includes throwing American workers under the bus.

With that said Obamas going to leave office with more created debt than all previous Presidents combined.

If it were up to me they would all go and we start all over.
And the problem with the left is they dont understand that the only way to increase benefits and salaries while reducing poverty, is through an atomosphere with a strong employment economy where employees are free to leave one job to go to another.

Ford doubled his employees wages because employees kept leaving, but somehow you guys think that a nation full of welfare recipiants and policies which push well paying jobs overseas leaving nothing but sucky ass fast food and retail jobs, will somehow improve work conditions.

its the most asinine thought process I've ever seen in my life.
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Old 04-29-2015, 09:58 PM
 
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The premise of your title is just incorrect, so it's hard to take the OP seriously. Obama is not a liberal.
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:04 PM
 
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This is for those Sycophant lefties that evidently really believe Obama has done great...
OBAMA vs. REAGAN on GDP GROWTH — NOT EVEN CLOSE | The Gateway Pundit

No comparison!!

Shrug. I became financially worse off under Reagan when rents necessarily skyrocketed.
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:06 PM
 
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yes but that just means your passing the blame for the bill onto Roberts, and now where it belongs with is those who passed it in the first place.
My argument is both parties suck.

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Didnt Roberts say something to the effect of, its constitutional, but its a POS, but its not his job to protect the nation from garbage legislation?
He had to twist things to make it Constitutional.
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:09 PM
 
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Shrug. I became financially worse off under Reagan when rents necessarily skyrocketed.
If you were that bad off under Reagan and still as bad off as you claim all of these years later the problem clearly lies with you.
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:18 PM
 
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How can Obama be a liberal when he

-Has deported more illegal aliens than any modern president
-Extended the bush tax cuts(taxes overall are historically low during his presidency)
-pushes to cut social security any chance he gets(yeah because we're too dumb to know what chained cpi means)


How can Reagan be a conservative when he
-Raised taxes several times
-Negotiated with terrorists
-Amnestied illegal aliens
-gone on record saying social security has nothing to do with the deficit


The problem is people have no idea what these terms(liberal conservative mean).
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:23 PM
 
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The premise of your title is just incorrect, so it's hard to take the OP seriously. Obama is not a liberal.
How fast can Democrats run from Obama.. Not fast enough obviously.

Just wait until Clintons start bashing him.. hahaha
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