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Been noticing a lot of people on the forum upset because they think others use improper verbiage or unnecessarily lump groups of people together. As a gay liberal, all I can do is laugh. After all this Baltimore outrage, I think it's important for people to look over the verbiage and find the core sentiment in a statement. This quote sums it up quite perfectly:
"Political Correctness, ironically, is often used to create outsiders.
On the surface, the function of being PC is inclusivity (through the consideration of how one's words will affect the widest range of listeners possible). This notion has merit, but this is only the surface.
The psychological gains of being PC are to create a language of those "in the know." When you trespass the norms of this inner-circle by making an off-color remark or using a word that is no longer the preferred nomenclature, those on the inside are sanctioned by the others in their group to chastise you. To label you "ignorant" - as if your syntax or word choice determined your rightness.
The application of political correctness often fosters inauthentic dialogue out of fear of social reprisal. It impedes productive conversation and shallows otherwise deep and meaningful thought. The focus should not be to increase our political correctness, but rather to move to a place as a society where we focus more on intent of speech rather than specific word choice."
If you see somebody you think is being racist, Islamic, homophobic, sexist, etc. really think to yourself before you call them out on it. Just because somebody notices a pattern in certain groups does not mean they are exclusive.
It is Friday and That may be why I have a hard time following what you write?
(Buzzed again)
I have two years of junior college and another two years of flight school but I must admit .. even though I didn't quite understand what you were saying .. I liked it!
Now .. If you weren't gay, I'd ask you: Will You Marry Me?
I get this. Eventually people will either crack under the pressure of those self appointed inner-circle types, or just crack them over the head. I vote #2.
Thank god I'm older and don't run with the crowds that seem to be into this sort of stuff. One of my kids gave me a hard time when he was in high school and very much into social justice and whatnot, but now he's on the same page as me That was some good parenting I'd say.
Been noticing a lot of people on the forum upset because they think others use improper verbiage or unnecessarily lump groups of people together. As a gay liberal, all I can do is laugh. After all this Baltimore outrage, I think it's important for people to look over the verbiage and find the core sentiment in a statement. This quote sums it up quite perfectly:
"Political Correctness, ironically, is often used to create outsiders.
On the surface, the function of being PC is inclusivity (through the consideration of how one's words will affect the widest range of listeners possible). This notion has merit, but this is only the surface.
The psychological gains of being PC are to create a language of those "in the know." When you trespass the norms of this inner-circle by making an off-color remark or using a word that is no longer the preferred nomenclature, those on the inside are sanctioned by the others in their group to chastise you. To label you "ignorant" - as if your syntax or word choice determined your rightness.
The application of political correctness often fosters inauthentic dialogue out of fear of social reprisal. It impedes productive conversation and shallows otherwise deep and meaningful thought. The focus should not be to increase our political correctness, but rather to move to a place as a society where we focus more on intent of speech rather than specific word choice."
If you see somebody you think is being racist, Islamic, homophobic, sexist, etc. really think to yourself before you call them out on it. Just because somebody notices a pattern in certain groups does not mean they are exclusive.
I received this the other day. Great timing
" FINALLY, A DEFINITION OF THE TERM "POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!
For the last six odd years, almost all of the things I wanted to write or say, have been stymied by a recently coined term referred to as "POLITICAL CORRECTNESS"! Although I consider myself rather fluent in the English language, that term was not in my vocabulary. My curiosity got the best of me and I decided to do a little research and after two weeks of chasing fruitless leads, I found what I'd been looking for at the Truman Library and Museum in Independence Missouri. An unnamed source there sent me copies of four telegrams that were between Harry Truman and Douglas MacArthur on the day before the actual signing of the Surrender Agreement. The contents of those four telegrams below are exactly as received, not a word has been added or deleted!
(1) Tokyo, Japan
0800-September 1, 1945
To: President Harry S Truman
From: General D A MacArthur
Tomorrow we meet with those yellow bellied bastards and sign the Surrender Documents, any last minute instructions!
(2) Washington, D C
1300-September 1, 1945
To: D A MacArthur
From: H S Truman
Congratulations, job well done, but you must tone down your obvious dislike of the Japanese when discussing the terms of the surrender with the press, because some of your remarks are fundamentally not politically correct!
(3) Tokyo, Japan
1630-September 1, 1945
To: H S Truman
From: D A MacArthur and C H Nimitz
Wilco Sir, but both Chester and I are somewhat confused, exactly what does the term politically correct mean?
(4) Washington, D C
2120-September 1, 1945
To: D A MacArthur/C H Nimitz
From: H S Truman Political Correctness is a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of s**t by the clean end!
I definitely think PC tends to cluster in places where people are trying to establish an in-group identity, like freshmen at UC Berkeley, elite academics, and young urbanites, where they can create an "enlightened culture" that the rest of us Philistines will be clueless about.
This whole "thug" thing is a case in point. Last I heard, a thug was a violent creep. Now, I am supposed to know the whole racist side of it. Sorry, I just don't care, and I am not falling over myself to not offend some violent black thugs.
The in-group dynamic is noticeable all around the world, the Parisian snobbery, the upper crust British accent, that sets the elite apart from the rest, the upper caste Indians, etc. The same cultural forces at play. The Hermann Hesse book Magister Ludi (the Glass Bead Game) does a wonderful job of pointing out the positive and negative aspects of such social stratification, elitism.
Ironically, the social conservatives in the USA, which I think are dominated by the Scots-Irish (up yours!) attitude, is just as elitist with its God, Guns, the Flag, Dixie or die culture. They seem to loath just about everyone else, and fall all over themselves to prove how "real Amerrrrricun" they are. Classic in-group thinking.
Small minds think alike, but hell, I love you all.
I get this. Eventually people will either crack under the pressure of those self appointed inner-circle types, or just crack them over the head. I vote #2.
Thank god I'm older and don't run with the crowds that seem to be into this sort of stuff. One of my kids gave me a hard time when he was in high school and very much into social justice and whatnot, but now he's on the same page as me That was some good parenting I'd say.
Me too. I don't know your politics, but I tend to be a moderate. I have to be to get along with all the great people in my family who are polar opposites (flaming liberals, and fire breathing conservatives). About 10% of the people do most of the ranting, and the rest of us do the hard work. I tend to not worry too much about being PC enough, Christian enough, enviro enough, country enough, or intellectual enough. I just try to be decent and loving to folks, choose my battles, and let the rest slide.
I still don't understand how the notion that people have some expectation or "right" to never be offended ever became part of American culture.
We as a nation hold our right to free speech among our dearest fundamental rights, yet many people also seem to have an innate degree of selfishness in wanting that right to only apply to those of us in society whose ideas are in agreement with thier own.
And before someone inevitably chimes in about how the first ammendment only guards against legal reprisal from government and not from social reprisal....no s*** Sherlock.
Political correctness is the Left's end run around those limitations of the first ammendment. It is nothing but a means for the self appointed thought police to impose their views on others.
After all, what does it really matter if the reprisals for "unacceptable" speech comes from the government or by an employer or attempting to paint someone as a social pariah in the media if the end result is the same?
The left has figured out that their end goal of stifling speech need not come from government in order to be effective in obtaining the desired results.
"Political Correctness is tyranny with a happy face" - Chalton Heston
That PC business has been around a long time. Remember when the Dept. of Defense was called the War Dept.? The right does it too.
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That was some good parenting I'd say.
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