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Old 05-13-2015, 09:18 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Increasing government largess could actually incentivize, or at least enable, parental choices that everyone admits are damaging to kids.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...rts-kids/?_r=0
Bingo! The perpetual increase in forced taxpayer-funded largess has actually incentivized parental choices that everyone admits are damaging to kids.
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Old 05-13-2015, 02:46 PM
 
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Not in proportion to their percentage of the overall population. The truth is that Blacks are 5 times more likely to receive welfare than Whites.
Yes, yes. That is because black people are more likely to be poor. 25% of black people live in poverty, compared to just 10% of white people. People qualify for welfare if they are living in poverty. It is not like this is a service created by people just wanting welfare. It is driven by being poor.
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Old 05-13-2015, 10:45 PM
 
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They're throwing themselves under the bus. Read The Millionaire Next Door. 80% of U.S. millionaires are first-generation wealthy. They did it by making wise life and financial decisions, hard work, sacrifice, and delayed gratification. Lifting oneself up takes commitment and dedication, but it CAN be done. Millions of Americans have done so.

Good parenting correlates well with good child outcomes.

Bad parenting correlates well with poor child outcomes.

Their parents threw them under the bus and you're kicking them when they're down.
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Old 05-13-2015, 10:55 PM
 
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When they starve enough they will come for your food and you will be no longer needed it, read some history or repeat it.
Let them come. Should be fun.
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Old 05-13-2015, 11:01 PM
 
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The fact remains that many more whites receive welfare than blacks.
And the fact remains that blacks are five times as likely to receive welfare as whites.
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Old 05-13-2015, 11:08 PM
 
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You most likely will when you go on Medicare!
If that's so, I'll be a millionaire in my old age.

But I'll only be able to spend it on needed health care -- and I might not even need health care.

Sounds like something liberals would come with.
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Old 05-13-2015, 11:17 PM
 
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It is.... But it seems your hate spewing made you miss my point.... I was talking about the poor's demand for goods and services does in fact create jobs..... To which replied that they should pretty much starve for all you care.... which wasn't relevant to job creation.

It's not my fault you can't follow along. Savvy?
Oh, I can follow along.

What YOU don't get is the fact that the jobs created by the poor's demand are only created because of the money taxpayers are forced by the government to give to the poor.

Those taxpayers would have spent the money on something else that would also have created jobs.

So the poor's demand adds exactly NOTHING to job creation.

Any more liberal sophistries you'd care to favor us with?
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Old 05-13-2015, 11:21 PM
 
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... they place the comfort and luxury of those who already are financially secure over the basic needs of those most vulnerable in society. I've already said that, very clearly. Your petulant overlooking of what I've already said and your insistence on arguing against things no one has said shows that you yourself acknowledge and understand the vacuous nature of what you're trying to defend.

I'm a democrat. Stop working so hard to deny I exist. Stop working so hard to deny that I wrote what I wrote. Stop working so hard to claim I wrote things I didn't write. Stop working so hard to blind yourself the corrupt nature of what you prefer.

Rather, a lot of love and compassion for people you apparently hate and at whom you apparently want to direct vitriol. It's not surprising to see you post such a projection of your own black and white thinking.

Neither am I. I'll say the same thing I said to FKD19124: Stop working so hard to deny I exist. Stop working so hard to deny that I wrote what I wrote. Stop working so hard to claim I wrote things I didn't write. Stop working so hard to blind yourself the corrupt nature of what you prefer.

I'm sure that that is the way right wingers choose to see it. For liberals, it is a matter of morality and justice, concepts that right wingers wouldn't recognize if they hit them square in the nose.
Do you actually get paid to spout this stuff?

Or, worse, do you really believe it?
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Old 05-13-2015, 11:23 PM
 
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You are so wrong. Do you know how many died in the 1920s &30s during the (forced) Collectivization of Russian, Ukrainian and Central Asian farming or the Sovietization of industry or the forced urbanization and building of infrastructure to make the new industries possible? The total is definitly in the millions or more accurately tens of millions. As Stalin once said," You have to break eggs to make breakfast". An old Russian or Georgian folk saying. Stalin could break eggs with the best of em.
And thus do you miss the point.
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Old 05-13-2015, 11:24 PM
 
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Maybe if 95% of all gains weren't going to the top 1% This wouldn't be such a problem now would it? But when we discuss that you scream about how were picking on the poor wealthy people.
Back to the one wrong justifies another wrong argument?
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