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Old 05-08-2015, 10:29 PM
 
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I would say fascist..., you want to impose your own beliefs onto others...
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Old 05-08-2015, 10:30 PM
 
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I do have some fascist-leaning beliefs. Under the world government I envision, propaganda would be used to promote beliefs such as mine, and there would be only one political party.


Yikes, that is scary!
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:01 PM
 
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Yikes, that is scary!
But guess what, all people would be guaranteed certain inalienable rights.
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:03 PM
 
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But guess what, all people would be guaranteed certain inalienable rights.
You want a one party system and I want multiple ones. I hate the 2 party system.
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:20 PM
 
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You want a one party system and I want multiple ones. I hate the 2 party system.
How about having only one political party, but allowing activist groups such as the ACLU to challenge its decisions?
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:24 PM
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1. I do NOT agree with abortion, EXCEPT for abortions performed for a purely medical or physical reason, such as to save the maternal life. Why you ask? Having abortion legal with no questions asked sends a very, very dangerous message to our females (and to a lesser extent, males also)... the message that actions are without consequences.
not agreeing with abortion doesnt have to do with being liberal, conservative, or even libertarian. Its a personal opinion.

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2. I do NOT agree with gay rights (gay marriage aside, I am opposed to all homosexual activity or expression of homosexuality). Why? Partly this could be due to me myself being asexual, but I find homosexual feelings irrational and illogical. The very existence of homosexuality (as defined by psychological/psychiatric authorities) is something I question the validity of, something I find to be based on pseudoscience. I really, really think of gays/lesbians as people with a narcissistic disorder, who go to great lengths to create sexual energy with other beings of the same gender... which in the case of gay men, involves using the fecal tract () for sexual purposes. Why gay men continue this tradition 30 years after the advent of AIDS is a contradiction I wish I never had to learn about. And I really, really think teamwork and cooperation are vital to the success of mankind. Thus, males acting like females and females acting like males are concepts I just can't go along with.
Straight people get aids and straight people have a.n.a.l. sex. Your argument here seems to be based more so on you not understanding rather than you disagreeing.

Also, all gay men dont act like girls, no do all gay females act like like men and dress like lumberjacks. and another counter point, I have met some very feminine straight men and well as masculine straight women. Neither trait defines sexuality.

You being asexual has nothing to do with your lack of understanding.

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3. I must say I respectfully disagree with the Jews (as much as "the Jews" can be thought of as one worldwide group) on a number of subjects. And before you ask about it, I really don't have any feelings about the Israeli-Palestinian debate, but am very concerned about Jews dominating the financial institutions and intellectual elite of the world... not saying there's anything wrong with Jews themselves, but it disturbs me that any one particular racial/ethnic group has so much power and might. And as an atheist, I realize that while not all Jews follow Judaism, it deeply worries me that America (a nation specifically banned from having a state religion) is the biggest ally of Israel (a nation also without a state religion, but for obvious reasons a nation dominated by people pushing one particular religion's agenda).
the above is a conspiracy theory.

the largest banks in the world are either owned by the nation itself or publicly traded. Same goes for largest equity firms.


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4. I was not alive then, but I would have had mixed feelings about the 1950s/early 1960s civil rights movement for African Americans. There absolutely is NO racist bone in my body, but I have intellectual reasons for not liking the civil rights movement as we knew it (though I agree with its message of racial equality). Rather than commit sit-ins, bus protests, etc, I think African Americans would have been better off suing to demolish segregation, lynchings, etc. And I wish African American leaders would have invited the segregationist leaders to a respectful but brutally honest dialogue, with the goal of changing Southern racists' hearts. Also, back in the 1930s when African Americans left the Republican Party to join the Democratic Party, I think they would have been much wiser to start their own party, without the distractions of various white interests in the same party holding the party hostage. Most white Republicans and Democrats alike I believe are racist, but African Americans have been duped by both sides throughout history. It really is very sad.
At this point, im not sure if you are trolling or just dont understand why the above didnt work. to be clear, black people did try what you claim, and they were in many cases killed for it.

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5. I strongly oppose amnesty for illegal immigrants to the USA, but not out of any kind of hatred or dislike for the Mexicans (or whoever else the illegal immigrants might be). Rather, considering most illegal immigrants are fleeing dictatorships (or countries with extreme poverty or extreme violence), I really think the USA should intervene to make those suffering countries safe to live in. Kick the arse of the Mexican/Colombian drug cartels for example.
This one makes sense, until you try to figure out who is going to pay for that war, and who is willing to die for it.

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6. I oppose feminist beliefs, and while I believe men and women are created equal, I don't support some woman activist's propaganda interfering with an intimate relationship between a man and a woman. Too many families have been destroyed because a woman chose agreement with Gloria Steinem instead of agreement with her own partner. Feminists are the most selfish and narcissistic human beings ever to walk the planet.
Im not sure what you mean here. I think your definition of feminist = lesbian rambo, LOL

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7. I believe welfare should only be given to people who have a clearly diagnosed physical or psychological obstacle to employment (or people in particularly desperate circumstances such as unemployable women who escaped an abusive husband).
Most economist agree that Full employment is 4% there is a natural unemployment rate based on life itself. Your logic only works if you completely ignore economist from all sides of the political spectrum,

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8. I believe government jobs should be given to the most qualified individuals, NOT the individuals who score the highest on an arbitrary (civil service) test. Pricks are routinely given these jobs... they most likely cheated on the test anyway, dammit!
you are arguing that being a prick makes you under qualified and that is just your bias showing.

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I do have some clearly "left-leaning" beliefs though. First of all, I really think religion should not exist. It has undermined way too many people and societies throughout history. I also wish the world all had one government. The idea of countries/nations is very irrational to me, and I really, really hate the concept of "war"... no matter "who started it" or what "freedom" is supposedly being threatened. And this one may make me really unpopular: I think marriage is wrong and should NEVER have been created. It has been detrimental to the freedom and sanity of way too many men and women alike, and perhaps is the cause of more MISERY than any other institution known to man. I also think children should ONLY (and I do mean ONLY) be brought into the world to satisfy a particular purpose or goal ("continue the bloodline" is an absolutely AWFUL reason), such as "cure cancer" or anything else the parents want to see happen, but won't live to see themselves accomplish.

And this is a very "liberal" belief I also have: I believe the idea of "social class" needs to die a very brutal death. The ideas of "lower class", "middle class", and "upper class" have all created a ton of heartbreak and suffering, for both "lower class" and "upper class" alike. And I'm not saying the concept of money needs to die (though that wouldn't be such a bad idea) but I think the many highly competitive concepts of worldly success (such as getting the best grades in high school, getting into the best college, getting the most prestigious job) often lead people on wild goose chases that lead to a cycle of dysfunction and pointless frustration. In fact, I really, really, REALLY wish our society offered children viable alternatives to wasting their innocent years in schools, and likewise that people with countercultural, groovy, far-out beliefs (like me) be given reasonable alternatives to spending our lives working. I have a job, but I feel suffocated by the very concept of having a job... even though I for the most part enjoy the work itself.

So based on all of the above, what label could be given to me? I normally detest labels but would honestly love to hear your opinions this time.
ugh, none of that stuff is liberal. I dont think anyone is going to want to claim you.... no offense.
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:25 PM
 
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How about having only one political party, but allowing activist groups such as the ACLU to challenge its decisions?
No, I don't want a monopoly. Why would anyone. People already challenge government and their decisions.
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Old 05-09-2015, 07:11 PM
 
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No, I don't want a monopoly. Why would anyone. People already challenge government and their decisions.
One political party would sow agreement (peace and harmony) and discourage disagreement.
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Old 05-09-2015, 07:26 PM
 
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OP is indecisive.
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Old 05-09-2015, 07:59 PM
 
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OP is indecisive.
Or a countercultural figure? I do realize the countercultural ideals of the 1960s sometimes agree with me, sometimes contradict me, but I think the same ideals that once were new and different are now old and stale.
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