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Old 05-08-2015, 12:09 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I can see that as usual, we are dealing with binary thinkers who doubtless will sit a hour in traffic rather than modify their route.
Protestors simply don't have the right to block egress into/onto a public facility. I realize you don't like the reality of that truth. Tough sh*t.
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Old 05-08-2015, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I can see that as usual, we are dealing with binary thinkers who doubtless will sit a hour in traffic rather than modify their route.

Such tunnel vision.

If a student at the university level cannot figure out how to deal with this sort of minor disruption, I see little hope for dealing with anything major.

That so many find this almost a capital offense speaks to a serious lack of critical thinking not to mention complete ignorance of the role civil disobedience played in the founding of this country.

The organizers of the original Tea Party must be spinning in their graves.
I'm thinking that gate sounds like a good place for the KKK or Aryan Nations to have a little meeting, and force others to hear their opinions and go out of their way to continue their normal business. It's just a little disruption, not a big deal.
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Old 05-08-2015, 12:38 PM
 
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Silly rabbit, "Black Lives Matter" isn't a racist group that goes around offending people and using racial slurs. It's an organization formed to stand up the the racism and devaluation against blacks in America. If one is offended by the righteous, it's very telling...
It is offensive, because ALL lives matter. And by saying that "black lives matter" is racist. All you have to do is replace black with white, and there would be shrieks of "racism" everywhere.
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Old 05-08-2015, 12:51 PM
 
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I can see that as usual, we are dealing with binary thinkers who doubtless will sit a hour in traffic rather than modify their route.

Such tunnel vision.

If a student at the university level cannot figure out how to deal with this sort of minor disruption, I see little hope for dealing with anything major.

That so many find this almost a capital offense speaks to a serious lack of critical thinking not to mention complete ignorance of the role civil disobedience played in the founding of this country.

The organizers of the original Tea Party must be spinning in their graves.
as typical again, you completely missed the point. if someone is having a peaceful protest, there is no problem. if those peaceful protesters are yelling insults at those that pass through the gate, there is no problem. if those "peaceful" protesters start to intimidate and physically stop those that want to pass through the gate, then we have a problem. the courts have ruled in a variety of cases that protesters CANNOT stop people from entering public buildings, parking lots, streets, etc. they CANNOT use force to intimidate or prevent such actions, because once they do they are no longer peacefully protesting, they are committing a crime, and as such they can, and should, be arrested.

and i can tell you that if someone were to put their hands on me and physically try to prevent me from entering a public building, they would in fact regret said action. once i have to defend myself, all bets are off, and they will end up in the hospital with severe knee injuries.
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Old 05-08-2015, 01:11 PM
 
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I'm thinking that gate sounds like a good place for the KKK or Aryan Nations to have a little meeting, and force others to hear their opinions and go out of their way to continue their normal business. It's just a little disruption, not a big deal.
That would NOT be allowed by the Berkeley Administration or the Campus Police - we would also NOT be hearing this asinine "just walk around them" garbage either.
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Old 05-08-2015, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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As the UCPD spokesperson pointed out “It may have been inconvenient, but people did at least have a way to get aroundâ€

Anyone who knows the campus knows that blocking Sather Gate would not stop anyone from getting to or from class.
This is true. And these protests only serve to reinforce negative feelings about the protesters. They certainly could have protested without irritating the students that they were trying to impress.
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Old 05-08-2015, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Silly rabbit, "Black Lives Matter" isn't a racist group that goes around offending people and using racial slurs. It's an organization formed to stand up the the racism and devaluation against blacks in America. If one is offended by the righteous, it's very telling...
"Black Lives Matter" is definitely a racist chant. That's what it's all about.
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Old 05-08-2015, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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I can see that as usual, we are dealing with binary thinkers who doubtless will sit a hour in traffic rather than modify their route.

Such tunnel vision.

If a student at the university level cannot figure out how to deal with this sort of minor disruption, I see little hope for dealing with anything major.

That so many find this almost a capital offense speaks to a serious lack of critical thinking not to mention complete ignorance of the role civil disobedience played in the founding of this country.

The organizers of the original Tea Party must be spinning in their graves.
Why are you defending people breaking the law and interfering with kids trying to get an education?
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Old 05-08-2015, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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No, we would have said "Kindly step aside so we can get through"

Just like Patrick Swayze says in "RoadHouse": 'Be nice, until it's time not to be nice'.
Dude, your parents would have been upset with you that you got kicked out of Berkeley for starting a fight you probably would have gotten a spanking in your 20s...
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Old 05-08-2015, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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That would NOT be allowed by the Berkeley Administration or the Campus Police - we would also NOT be hearing this asinine "just walk around them" garbage either.
Oh why not? According to the poster I was responding to, it's just a peaceful demonstration. Protected by free speech rights.

Or, perhaps, is it only speech that poster agrees with that is proper and protected in a bastion of free speech rights and tolerance like UCB? Do shut down one group but not another would be hypocritical. Not to mention illegal due to to unequal treatment.
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