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In spite of what you may think, obesity is not, never has been, and (hopefully) never will be illegal.
Millions of taxpayer dollars have not been spent trying unsuccessfully to stop people from overeating, or selling fattening foods.
Thousands of people have not been incarcerated for overeating, spending years in jail living off the taxpayers.
However, given the current feelings towards fat people, I would not be surprised to see it come to that.
It THAT what YOU want?
05-17-2015, 11:10 AM
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Legalize all. Redirect the resources to arresting people who commit actual crimes that hurt other people. I don't care if someone sits around using meth all day, but it'd be nice if the police would at least make some attempt to investigate when said meth head breaks into my car or steals my property.
By your reasoning, they are monitoring our drunken stupor, so what's the difference? It's better to be monitored than thrown in jail for possesion of a joint. This is a ridiculous and unwinnable war on the people.
Drunken stupors are what separate us from Muslims.
No drugs should remain illegal other than use by minors. A citizen in a free country should have the choice.
What a person decides to do in the privacy of their own home should not concern others. If you DO decide to use drugs you get no welfare benefits; you made a choice and that doesn't include free food and rent.
If you use drugs and attempt to drive you would be treated as any other intoxicated driver. If you go out in public intoxicated you are thrown in jail.
In spite of what you may think, obesity is not, never has been, and (hopefully) never will be illegal.
Millions of taxpayer dollars have not been spent trying unsuccessfully to stop people from overeating, or selling fattening foods.
But billions of taxpayer dollars have been spent on medical care for obese people. The legality of drugs and obesity is immaterial.
Jail is short term/ prison long term. Funny how you are commenting on something you clearly are ignorant of. PRISONS ALL OVER THE United States are overcrowed with people with drug charges.
I think you need to go back and look that the numbers. Jail are packed with hundreds of thousands of people on drug charges. But in prisons you will rarely find someone there on drug possession charges alone; there is almost always a corresponding felony for a property crime or violent crime that put them there.
I think you need to go back and look that the numbers. Jail are packed with hundreds of thousands of people on drug charges. But in prisons you will rarely find someone there on drug possession charges alone; there is almost always a corresponding felony for a property crime or violent crime that put them there.
I responded to that twice, do you disagree?
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Originally Posted by 2sleepy
Depends where you are, there are still plenty of places across the US where personal possession can/will end up with a prison commitment. In California until a few years ago you could get charged with transportation of a controlled substance for walking across a parking lot with dope in your pocket, there was no requirement that there was an intent to sell, and any usable amount was sufficient for a conviction, the law has changed, but for years, in some jurisdictions, simple possession was charged as transportation and resulted in plenty of prison sentences for no good reason at all.
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Originally Posted by marigolds6
Prison or jail? Jail is still very common for possession, but not so much prison (and obviously a jail sentence cannot be very lengthy except in a few states).
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Originally Posted by 2sleepy
It depends where you are, in Nevada it's fairly common to end up in prison for drug possession (1-4 years) I'm not 100% sure this is still correct, but a few years ago a Nevada attorney told me that a second conviction is not probation eligible; and if you get a third felony even if the only convictions you ever had were for drug possession the DA can charge you as a career criminal with a life sentence. Unfortunately Nevada isn't very 'transparent' so it's almost impossible to find figures on how many people are doing prison terms for drug possession.
California Prisons are releasing between 10,000 and 13,000 prisoners due to prop 47 which reduced drug possession to a misdemeanor, felons who have a non-eligible commitment offense will not be released. Some other felonies were reduced in that proposition as well, but I would guess that a good number of those 10,000 + inmates were being held on possession charges. There are probably at least that number being released from County Jails where a large number of California inmates now serve their prison term for felony sentences due to AB109.
So, it's not accurate to make it sound like a rare occurrence for a person to be in prison for drug possession, it might be rare where you are, but like I keep saying "it depends"
13,000 is a very small number compared to the 7 million we currently have in all corrections. Well under 1%. It is one state, but it was also the state most widely known for imprisoning people for drug possession and the largest corrections system of any state.
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