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View Poll Results: Which is most likely in the Amtrak Crash? (multiple choice poll)
(Engineer) "does" remember what happened but is saying he doesn't likely to escape trouble... 51 52.04%
(Engineer) is working with ISIS and did this deliberately 4 4.08%
(Engineer) is mentally ill and did this and has no recollection 5 5.10%
This was purely an accident at 106 miles an hour... 11 11.22%
This was an ill-trained Engineer and he did not understand a curve was coming up 9 9.18%
The train malfunctioned and the Engineer could not pull out of the failure 9 9.18%
Amtrak is safe and crashes are rare..Ride the Rails.. 39 39.80%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 98. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-14-2015, 10:22 PM
 
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If it were not for the funds shifted to mass transit over the last 3 decades we would have (A better roads, B)a surplus or C)both
A surplus? Do show your math...
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Old 05-14-2015, 10:26 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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According to reports I've seen ... the blood taken from the Engineer indicates there was no trace of drugs or alcohol in his system. It appears AMTRAK is looking for mechanical problems beyond the Engineer's control.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 05-14-2015, 10:28 PM
 
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Having experienced train service (both regular and high speed) in European and Asian countries I can say that Amtrak, and American mass transit in general, is positively third world by comparison.
It's difficult, takes sustained effort and is not very profitable. America hasn't exactly excelled in that category since what, the Moon landings?
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Old 05-14-2015, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I would have liked another poll option:

•106 mph crash in a 50 mph zone...Amtrak must be underfunded!

President Obama calls for greater federal spending on infrastructure after Amtrak crash in Philadelphia | FOX6Now.com
wuti? rail embedded sensors along the rail bed would have slowed that train down but God forbid we have tech like the Japanese in the US!
As for the Engineer? as I have said in other threads he may have dozed off at the wheel.
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Old 05-14-2015, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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wuti? rail embedded sensors along the rail bed would have slowed that train down but God forbid we have tech like the Japanese in the US!
As for the Engineer? as I have said in other threads he may have dozed off at the wheel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9lrzKsA3Dg

Probably some Japanese blamed a lack of funding for this too. If only we had a corporate income tax rate as high as the Americans...

Amtrak has gotten something like $45 billion in tax funding since inception. For the 3rd time, it was sold as something that would be self-supporting within a short time when created over 40 years ago. For all those billions, they gave us a system where one guy dozing off results in 8 deaths?
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Old 05-15-2015, 12:09 AM
 
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Accelerator pedal stuck via floor mat ala Toyota?
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Old 05-15-2015, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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You are making this too complicated....He was probably distracted...(texting on his cell phone or making out with his assistant)

It's happened before.... A B.C. Supreme Court judge blamed a tangled, steamy relationship between two crew members for the Queen of the North’s deadly collision with a remote, rocky island, as she sentenced navigator Karl Lilgert to four years for his role in the ship’s sinking. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle12773903/
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Old 05-15-2015, 06:09 AM
 
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A surplus? Do show your math...
There has always been surplus. The outlays of the Highway Trust Fund have steadily matched the receipts for decades even with the money being shifted to the mass transit fund. It's only recently they have had to inject general funds into it.




I don't know what the total is given to mass transit over the years but it has be in the 100 billion range which could meet their budget for two plus years. There is only two possibilities of what would of happened with that money if it were not spent on mass transit, we'd have a huge surplus or better roads.
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Old 05-15-2015, 06:11 AM
 
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This gets my vote.

Especially since the latest is that the train accelerated right before entering the turn.
Train "malfunction" on the sudden acceleration or he did it deliberately...
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Old 05-15-2015, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I would have liked another poll option:

•106 mph crash in a 50 mph zone...Amtrak must be underfunded!
Aren't they supposed to have automatic brakes?
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