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Old 05-15-2015, 02:58 PM
 
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... what are you smoking? I'm proposing a trip to Brasil without leaving the country?

Must be some pretty powerful stuff.

Sorry, bad joke. The idea was, a $1000 minimum wage would turn this country into a northern version of Brazil.
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Old 05-15-2015, 03:04 PM
 
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Sorry, bad joke. The idea was, a $1000 minimum wage would turn this country into a northern version of Brazil.
Is northern Brazil a nice area? If so, we should send all these moon bats who want $30/hour to push a button and smile over there. Maybe they can create their own society in the rain forest where money no longer exists and all trade is done through barter.

...I'll trade you these three sea shells for that carton of goat milk...
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Old 05-15-2015, 03:08 PM
 
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How are they going to pay for that? How did you pay for learning a skill?

Libs would never suggest cheaper housing, they would suggest more government subsidies.
Books in the library are free!
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Old 05-15-2015, 03:13 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Is northern Brazil a nice area? If so, we should send all these moon bats who want $30/hour to push a button and smile over there. Maybe they can create their own society in the rain forest where money no longer exists and all trade is done through barter.

...I'll trade you these three sea shells for that carton of goat milk...
A basic income is going to happen sooner or later. The result of the catastrophic success of capitalism.
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Old 05-15-2015, 03:15 PM
 
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A basic income is going to happen sooner or later. The result of the catastrophic success of capitalism.
I am perfectly fine with a basic income or stipend for every citizen as long as they forfeit their rights to vote and do not commit any crime.
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Old 05-15-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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A minimum wage job is for students, people looking for second jobs, retirees and people just starting off in life.

A minimum wage job will provide a high school graduate or dropout with no skills enough to get by while they acquire additional skills in order to move up the ladder.

Cleaning houses, mowing yards, painting fences, cleaning porta-cans, waiting tables, throwing sod, doing laundry, babysitting, etc, etc, all pay more than minimum wage.

If you make minimum wage working 40 hours a week, you'll make $15,080 working full time annually. If you cleaned two houses on each Saturday to bring home an extra $150 per week, you'd make an extra $7,800 in a year.

$7,800 can by a used work truck and a pressure washer. It can buy a new painting rig and ladders. It can buy a computer and instructional books to learn data entry. It can be INVESTED in all sorts of thing to allow you to make more money because you have more value.

Don't make me tell my "going from minimum wage at Mervyn's to $25 per hour hanging wallpaper in the 80's" story again.
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Old 05-15-2015, 03:34 PM
 
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A basic income is going to happen sooner or later. The result of the catastrophic success of capitalism.
Yeah, the vast majority of our poor having televisions, access to emergency care, gaming systems, cell phones, places to live, food, etc, etc, constantly shows the failure of capitalism.

The only system that would have nobody in a lower class is one that kept everyone in that lower class.

If you don't want to be poor living off of $7.25 an hour, don't drop out of high school and hope that quitting McDonalds to work for Burger King is going to improve your lot in life.
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Old 05-15-2015, 03:43 PM
 
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I am perfectly fine with a basic income or stipend for every citizen as long as they forfeit their rights to vote and do not commit any crime.
Lolz no thanks. We can do it without that nonsense.
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Old 05-15-2015, 03:45 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Yeah, the vast majority of our poor having televisions, access to emergency care, gaming systems, cell phones, places to live, food, etc, etc, constantly shows the failure of capitalism.

The only system that would have nobody in a lower class is one that kept everyone in that lower class.

If you don't want to be poor living off of $7.25 an hour, don't drop out of high school and hope that quitting McDonalds to work for Burger King is going to improve your lot in life.
I said the result of catastrophic success.....

The poor having those things is partially a result of welfare, not entirely "capitalism".
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Old 05-15-2015, 04:02 PM
 
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Why is personal responsibly never part of the equation in a liberal's mind?
You're responding to someone who actually has a skill, if i recall they know computer programming, but they choose to work for minimum wage and then go to some web forum and whine about it..

Yeah, its as stupid as it sounds
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