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Old 05-16-2015, 12:22 PM
 
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Originally Posted by lifeexplorer View Post
Because America is not a communist country. How an employee is compensated is none of your business unless you are the owner of the company or an shareholder.
It's my business as a tax payer since my taxes are subsidizing many of these employees through food stamps and other programs.
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Old 05-16-2015, 12:24 PM
 
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Q: Why is minimum wage the focus of so many arguments?
Why isn't maximum wage, the compensation of top executives the center of debate?
(Executives today make 10 times more than 30 years ago for similar positions and 1000 times of what low paid workers at their company make). Why aren't conservatives alarmed by struggling companies that pay millions to executives even when financial performance is mediocre at best?
We've reached a point in our political discourse where a CEO screwing over as many people as possible, while making out like a bandit, is seen as a patriotic endeavor.
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Old 05-16-2015, 12:38 PM
 
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It's my business as a tax payer since my taxes are subsidizing many of these employees through food stamps and other programs.

So stop the subsidies.

The top executives pay far more taxes than you. If you limit their pay, we would have less taxes. LOL.
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Old 05-16-2015, 12:40 PM
 
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We've reached a point in our political discourse where a CEO screwing over as many people as possible, while making out like a bandit, is seen as a patriotic endeavor.
How does a CEO screw over people?

As far as I can see, the liberal are screwing the poor for vote yet the poor continue to vote for them.
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Old 05-16-2015, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The latest proposal is $10.10 an hour going to $12 in 2020 from Dems. Republicans don't have a response. I suspect many of those minimum wage workers form part of the Republican base.

Because Democrats are all on welfare?
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Old 05-16-2015, 12:50 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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A minimum wage job is for students, people looking for second jobs, retirees and people just starting off in life.

A minimum wage job will provide a high school graduate or dropout with no skills enough to get by while they acquire additional skills in order to move up the ladder.

Cleaning houses, mowing yards, painting fences, cleaning porta-cans, waiting tables, throwing sod, doing laundry, babysitting, etc, etc, all pay more than minimum wage.

If you make minimum wage working 40 hours a week, you'll make $15,080 working full time annually. If you cleaned two houses on each Saturday to bring home an extra $150 per week, you'd make an extra $7,800 in a year.

$7,800 can by a used work truck and a pressure washer. It can buy a new painting rig and ladders. It can buy a computer and instructional books to learn data entry. It can be INVESTED in all sorts of thing to allow you to make more money because you have more value.

Don't make me tell my "going from minimum wage at Mervyn's to $25 per hour hanging wallpaper in the 80's" story again.
I would like some evidence that min wage is only for students, people looking for second jobs, retiree and people starting out because when I researched min wage history is says nothing about that. Where do poor people get 7800 dollars to buy all that stuff?
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Old 05-16-2015, 12:52 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Originally Posted by lifeexplorer View Post
Because America is not a communist country. How an employee is compensated is none of your business unless you are the owner of the company or an shareholder.

Go ahead and pass a law to limit max compensation. Then we can watch all the corporations move their headquarters oversea and start hiring foreigners.
So if an employer payed $2 hour and their employees living in a carboard box you would be okat with that? There are state laws for businesses to follow so it is our business.
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Old 05-16-2015, 12:55 PM
 
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A good minimum IQ limit would be good for this forum, 90 and up. I wonder where all the conservatives would go....
So conservatives have low IQs and so-called "progressives" are well educated in and have great ability to understand the complexities of their particular delusion. 6 of one, half a dozen of the other....
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Old 05-16-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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So conservatives have low IQs and so-called "progressives" are well educated in and have great ability to understand the complexities of their particular delusion. 6 of one, half a dozen of the other....
Why are you surprised? Take a look at the IQ by state.
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Old 05-16-2015, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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How are they going to pay for that? How did you pay for learning a skill?
On the job training....this is what minimum wage is supposed to be used for in the first place.

Pick a trade that interests you and has some future in economic viability. Something that is not practical to outsource helps.

Scan craigslist and other job boards for that type of job and apply at an entry level or even a helper or apprenticeship. Getting out and actually knocking on doors to introduce yourself is still a good idea too, it may seem passé, but it still is one of the best methods of getting yourself noticed.


Employers like people with initiative, so if you can get an interview or even a foot in the door, ask to speak to the owner or manager and tell them that you want to learn the trade and are willing to do whatever is necessary to accomplish your goals.

If they aren't hiring, go to the next place ....persistence is the key here.

Have some humility and don't expect to learn everything overnight, nor to be paid the same as someone who has been learning their trade for decades and has developed skills that make them more valuable.

If you have aptitude and a good work ethic, you will inevitably earn more over time as your knowledge and skill level increases.

Many people who eventually start their own business begin their career path this way.

Is it easy? Hell no, but it's definitely not impossible as some would tell you. The trick is not to listen to those people.
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