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Old 05-15-2015, 03:49 PM
 
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Colleges aren't racist...They're discriminatory.

It's not the same thing.
Correct.

Just like private companies. Good luck trying to prove discrimination as a reason for not getting hired.
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Old 05-15-2015, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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They should just stop asking what race/ethnicity you are when applying. It always seemed odd to me, especially since 'are you Hispanic' is usually a separate question.

Colleges should accept the people with the most potential. All colleges should look at a person's grades and require a short essay where they (the applicant) explains why they're applying and what plans they have. Also, those who apply earlier in the process should get priority because, you know, initiative.

This focus on race is pointless. Just don't ask them what race they are, and don't factor it into admissions. It shouldn't work for or against you ever. What matters is the person's ambition and ability.
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Old 05-15-2015, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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No, I don't think so.

Universities should care about diversity, not racial diversity, but talent diversity. (Then again, as an artist and a former athlete, I admit I am biased)
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Old 05-15-2015, 04:36 PM
 
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Correct.

Just like private companies. Good luck trying to prove discrimination as a reason for not getting hired.
There isn't a court on the planet that can make Harvard stop discriminating. They know what they want the school to look like, and there's nothing anyone can do to change it.
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Old 05-15-2015, 04:38 PM
 
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Racist? Dunno.

Absolutely off their rocker? You betcha.

You have to appreciate the phrasing in this important news release:

https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/20...3/18769464.php

The funny thing is how new all this insanity is. When I went to college, which really wasn't all that many decades ago, absolutely nothing of this sort was going on.
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Old 05-15-2015, 04:51 PM
 
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Grades are only part of the equation. Many other factors

A kid with staight a's whose parents are surgeons isnt as impressive as a foster kid with a's and b's.
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Old 05-15-2015, 05:08 PM
 
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Grades are only part of the equation. Many other factors

A kid with staight a's whose parents are surgeons isnt as impressive as a foster kid with a's and b's.
Bingo.

Having high grades and test scores are but ONE component of a student profile. Having excellent test scores is not a guarantee of entry into a school of your choice.

You're supposed to apply to multiple schools. Brilliant students will get into top notch schools. But just because you want it to be Harvard doesn't give you the right to get in. Harvard has the right to consider multiple facets of a student's profile for entry.

No court can put a stop to it.
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Old 05-15-2015, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Grades are only part of the equation. Many other factors

A kid with staight a's whose parents are surgeons isnt as impressive as a foster kid with a's and b's.
I respectfully disagree with you.

I think a kid with straight A's whose parents are surgeons is NOT as impressive as a foster kid with straight A's. In another word, A kid with straight A's whose parents are surgeons IS more impressive than a foster kid with A's and B's.

But a kid with straight A's who has other talents is far more impressive than a kid with just straight A's (regardless of their parents' social economical backgrounds.)
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Old 05-15-2015, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Since 1970s, the Supreme Court has allowed schools to pursue diversity on campus in what it called a “holistic” way. Now we see that in pursuit of diversity, schools treat some minorities as less equal than others based solely on race.

Nothing holistic—or constitutional—about that.
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