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Old 05-17-2015, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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Read YOUR post again and tell me it wasn't "divisive". I didn't have any problem with Mrs. Obama's remarks and considering the trash that she and her family have put up with , I thought she showed admirable restraint. I am a white female.
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Old 05-17-2015, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Here's the real deal - any speech made by the First Lady has been looked over by a DOZEN people before she actually makes it - whether she initially wrote it herself or not, it has been examined and re-written several times.

This is not something live from the Maurie Povich show! This is not a pack of lies strung together for entertainment value! You may not agree with it but there's nothing that is really outrageous here or that is a lie. THE FIRST LADY IS SAYING THIS - it has been vetted - thoroughly - so get your head out of the sand and get with reality.
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Old 05-17-2015, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking I get a real chuckle when I hear some of my white brethren say things like:

1) "I've never seen any racism, therefore it no longer exists."

2) "Obama has set race relations back because he's black."

Carry on.

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Old 05-17-2015, 12:25 PM
 
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Ah, here we go again with "ALL" and such.:roll eyes:
You're right, I didn't realize that there is even one African-American person who does not feel discriminated against even once in his/her life, but apparently I am wrong. There is at least one, and probably more.

So, please let me apologize, and edit my post to "practically all". Thank you.

Mick
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Old 05-17-2015, 12:35 PM
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No one denies there is racism in the world today - the point some of us are making is that racism or ignorance has been felt by everyone at some point in time. Many blacks use that as a crutch instead of motivation to prove those racists wrong.

There have been many discussions on here of all sorts of topics - but you always get 1 liberal to comment and make it a race issue - totally out of the scope of the discussion - but they manage to insert something they find racist - so there are some of you who also will not let it rest.
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Old 05-17-2015, 12:40 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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No one denies there is racism in the world today - the point some of us are making is that racism or ignorance has been felt by everyone at some point in time. Many blacks use that as a crutch instead of motivation to prove those racists wrong.

There have been many discussions on here of all sorts of topics - but you always get 1 liberal to comment and make it a race issue - totally out of the scope of the discussion - but they manage to insert something they find racist - so there are some of you who also will not let it rest.
What I heard in that speech was a call for the graduating class not to allow racism or any kind of -ism to define or limit them.
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Old 05-17-2015, 12:59 PM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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Three Reasons Michelle Obama's Tuskegee University Commencement Speech Did More Harm Than Good | The American Spectator
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Old 05-17-2015, 01:29 PM
 
Location: in the miseries
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It is amazing how that built in bias can warp one's view of a perfectly reasonable speech. She is speaking to Tuskegee not Harvard and her speech would appear appropriate.

Where on earth did you get this view on reaching up on a shelf? Cite the passage please.
I read about her being asked to help a shorter white woman.

At first Michelle thought nothing of it, then she decided it was racial.
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Old 05-17-2015, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Hyrule
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Here's the real deal - any speech made by the First Lady has been looked over by a DOZEN people before she actually makes it - whether she initially wrote it herself or not, it has been examined and re-written several times.

This is not something live from the Maurie Povich show! This is not a pack of lies strung together for entertainment value! You may not agree with it but there's nothing that is really outrageous here or that is a lie. THE FIRST LADY IS SAYING THIS - it has been vetted - thoroughly - so get your head out of the sand and get with reality.
Exactly the point, divisiveness was given a green light for the first lady. Maybe we don't all agree it was the right thing to say in her position. Maybe unity would have been a better choice. My opinion.

We were asked, so we answered. I guess we should have all lied and said it was great so we aren't proliferating racism. She wanted to make that clear, she did, not everyone is happy about it. We were asked to talk about it, we are, you don't like it. Am I missing anything?

Nobody is disputing prejudice happens on here.
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Old 05-17-2015, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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What I heard in that speech was a call for the graduating class not to allow racism or any kind of -ism to define or limit them.
That's probably because you actually listened to the speech. The soundbite comes across as divisive in isolation. In the context of the speech in its entirety, you heard the same thing I did. It was a bit heavy handed but that was build up to what you just said. It also had a bit of pandering to it. The people graduating for Tuskegee aren't the ones burning cities and aren't facing the same experience today as many of her examples. She's unfortunately right that when people behave that way, they lose. Rioting reflects badly on the black community as a whole, and that point was pretty bluntly made. It shouldn't in a perfect world but the reality is that it does. I find it interesting that that aspect of the speech from the critics just isn't ever mentioned considering that's pretty much what they've been beating the dead horse on for some time now.
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