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I thought it was a great speech. She used the story of the Tuskegee Air Men, plus her own personal struggles, to motivate a group of students to persevere and hopefully gain success despite whatever struggles may come their way. She motivated them to become contributing members of society.
But who wants to be reminded of internment camp though? Who wants to be reminded that part of the history all the time?! Most people want to move on, learn from the history and rebuild their life. Many people have friends from every racial groups, economical backgrounds. This is the United States of America 2015.
Some people get ahead through hard work, thrift, and by outperforming others. Some people get ahead by b$%&ching and moaning and playing on white guilt. Therein lies the difference.
Of course not - Black people are not the only ones to be treated like Sh%t. But that is not this discussion. This is about a speech Obama gave to a predominantly Black University. She is discussing what theses students face and will face now and in the future - not something that happened 70 years ago. BTW, I am not discounting the internment camps. That is another discussion that does not belong here.
I call her a First Lady. She is also Black and that has shaped who she is today. It cannot be discounted. Cheers.
And this is our question: what awful things will these students face at the hands of white people, exactly? Part of her examples include mean things that people said about her husband, the president. You'll pardon me if I don't weep for her.
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And this is our question: what awful things will these students face at the hands of white people, exactly? Part of the examples that she lists includes mean things that people said about her husband, the president. You'll pardon me if I don't weep for her.
But if you're white, and you don't do any of these things to black people, then you haven't nothing to be upset about.
But if you're white, and you don't do any of these things to black people, then you haven't nothing to be upset about.
But what do white people do to black people? Let's hear it.
I could give you some examples of black people suffering at the hands of other black people, though. That would be one looooooooooooong list.
But what do white people do to black people? Let's hear it.
I could give you some examples of black people suffering at the hands of other black people, though. That would be one looooooooooooong list.
But, is she a black first lady, or the first lady of the United States of America?
Just because she is black, doesn't mean other people in the united states are invisible. I would be the first one to say that black people's experience is very unique. No other minority group should tell them how to act, think, or behave like the model minority. But, How do you think somebody like myself (german/irish/hawaiian/japanese) would think about that speech?
Hello?!
Not saying she is playing victim card all the time at all, but if some Japanese-American officials talk about internment camp all the damn time, I think I would puke.
In regards to the red, I think that you should adhere to the knowledge you have in regards to the blue and realize that all Americans are still Americans but that we have different experiences.
I would also think that you shouldn't take any mention of racial discrimination personally. Mrs. Obama didn't blame you or any particular person in regards to the discrimination and special circumstances in regards to being black in America.
In regards to the Japanese, many do speak about internment and the sufferings endured during that time. It was a tragedy what happened to the Japanese and something very unique to that particular generation. Just like racial discrimination against black people is unique to each generation. Today, ours is "softer" like how Mrs. Obama described whereas in year's past it literally was terrorism and mass subjugation (and the past I am speaking of is the 1920s-1960s).
Do you get upset when Jews "never forget" the Holocaust? Do you get upset in regards to your Hawaiian roots and the cries of discrimination, subjugation, and genocide of native populations?
Personally I don't get why so many seem to think she and even myself at times are "playing a race card." People like Mrs. Obama and myself and countless other black people, don't let race get in the way of our achievements. We recognize, acknowledge, and work through the frustrations of race and come out for the better. And that is what she told the audience to do and it is something that all black youth especially should hear and know so that they don't become overly frustrated and angry about something that they cannot really change.
With your background, I would think that you would take those words - triumph over adversity and prejudice - to heart, and see it as an inspiration instead of the eye rolling race card mantra repeated by people who just don't want to acknowledge that black people don't face discrimination anymore or that past terrorism and subjugation against black people in this country has had a detrimental affect in specific areas that will take many years to overcome.
In regards to the red, I think that you should adhere to the knowledge you have in regards to the blue and realize that all Americans are still Americans but that we have different experiences.
I would also think that you shouldn't take any mention of racial discrimination personally. Mrs. Obama didn't blame you or any particular person in regards to the discrimination and special circumstances in regards to being black in America.
In regards to the Japanese, many do speak about internment and the sufferings endured during that time. It was a tragedy what happened to the Japanese and something very unique to that particular generation. Just like racial discrimination against black people is unique to each generation. Today, ours is "softer" like how Mrs. Obama described whereas in year's past it literally was terrorism and mass subjugation (and the past I am speaking of is the 1920s-1960s).
Do you get upset when Jews "never forget" the Holocaust? Do you get upset in regards to your Hawaiian roots and the cries of discrimination, subjugation, and genocide of native populations?
Personally I don't get why so many seem to think she and even myself at times are "playing a race card." People like Mrs. Obama and myself and countless other black people, don't let race get in the way of our achievements. We recognize, acknowledge, and work through the frustrations of race and come out for the better. And that is what she told the audience to do and it is something that all black youth especially should hear and know so that they don't become overly frustrated and angry about something that they cannot really change.
With your background, I would think that you would take those words - triumph over adversity and prejudice - to heart, and see it as an inspiration instead of the eye rolling race card mantra repeated by people who just don't want to acknowledge that black people don't face discrimination anymore or that past terrorism and subjugation against black people in this country has had a detrimental affect in specific areas that will take many years to overcome.
First of all, I NEVER said she was blaming me personally. Thinking that way is ridiculous.
Secondly, THE ONLY point I was trying to make is that She is the first lady of the United States of America. I SOMETIMES feel she is the first lady of black community ONLY.
Last but not least, I said "If a Japanese-American OFFICIAL talks about internment camp all the time, I think I would puke" Translation: Stirs Racial Division for Political Ends Does Not Work for me.
They say perception is reality. My perception might not be reality, it is just my perception.
I think she will make such an impact if she chose not to focus on race so many times in the past.
NOTHING more, NOTHING less.
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