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Im not a liberal and welfare cheats and their baby daddies are real winners in my book
So if we oppose welfare fraud, like that supposed story, we are all liberals? Very bizarre. I'm not a liberal either but welfare cheats are low on my respectable scale because they make it rough for the truly needy.
not in all states, and in some states EBT cards are identical to the unemployment debit card. And I'm just amazed that some of you are so curious about how people pay for their food that you would worry about what color debit card they use
A few years ago I was on unemployment and I got my money via my checking account so at least in Illinois they are separate or were. I only started looking because welfare fraud is a problem in Illinois and have known many cheaters.
Over the past few years, EBT has been used for some “questionable” items. Here are 11 questionable items that you can (or will soon be able to) purchase with an EBT card.
Quesarito: Taco Bell is one of many fast food restaurants that accept EBT cards. Guacamole is extra? Who cares? It’s on the taxpayer.
Bail: Convicted felons – like drug dealer Kimball Clark – have reportedly used their EBT as bail money. Clark reportedly instructed someone to go to an ATM to withdraw money from his EBT for bail. Because it’s difficult to trace ATM abuse, many speculate this problem is more widespread and not just found in isolated incidents.
Lingerie:Kiss My Lingerie, an adult store in Gonzales, Louisiana, accepts EBT. Other adult stores have also been known to accept welfare transactions. In this case, officials said the store doesn’t violate the rules for EBT because of discrepancies in the law.
Shoes: While Payless ShoeSource is known for their BOGO sales, they’re certainly not the cheapest place to buy shoes. Despite the prices and functionality, they also accept EBT.
Strip clubs: Last year, the New York Post reported that FOIA requests revealed welfare recipients were regularly making EBT withdrawals at the ATMs near and inside infamous porn shops, liquor stores, lounges and hookah parlors. Technically, it also doesn’t break the law because of the “cash assistance program.”
Lobster: There have been multiple cases of this. As long as it’s not tobacco or alcohol, you’re golden.
Starbucks: While corporate stores don’t accept EBT, any Starbucks in a Target or grocery chain is considered a grocery item. So $7.00 for a mocha cookie crumble frappuccino and pumpkin loaf? Go.
Cold hard cash: Some people are in the business of selling their EBT benefits for cash. Craigslist has been a great conduit for these “creative entrepreneurs.”
K-cups: A lot of people don’t buy coffee in this form because it’s too expensive, but it’s not off limits in the world of welfare.
Cupcakes/Gourmet cakes: It’s considered food, no matter the price. Hello, non-essential $45 cake.
Shouldn't the title of the article be:
11 Things You Didn’t Know Other People's Money Could Buy With Food Stamps
This thread is about Food Stamps. You are confusing two programs, which are VERY DIFFERENT.
That cash given is TO BE PAID BACK. It's a loan. They'll even place a lien on your house upon your death to re-coup the $$
my post was about the SNAP (food stamps) EBT (electronic benefits transfer) program.
Originally Posted by blind melon Im not a liberal and welfare cheats and their baby daddies are real winners in my book
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Originally Posted by Idon'tdateyou
So if we oppose welfare fraud, like that supposed story, we are all liberals? Very bizarre. I'm not a liberal either but welfare cheats are low on my respectable scale because they make it rough for the truly needy.
I'm fairly certain blind melon was reiterating the same thing. I think you were lost on the sarcasm.
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Originally Posted by justNancy
If you have a solution, I'd like to hear it. Blaming "liberals" does no good whatsoever. That's why we have a do-nothing Congress. In any case, cutting or stopping programs because they're not perfect is definitely not the answer, not when needy, deserving people will suffer.
again with the false meme that conservatives are trying to cut programs. How about they rework the programs to benefit those who truly need it. Welfare has become a revolving door for many who could otherwise lift themselves up, but choose to let others pay their way.
EXP: I had a friend, years ago, who had siblings from several different fathers. His mom was on EVERY welfare program available; section 8 housing, food stamps, bi-monthly support checks...etc. My friend literally had a new pair of kicks for every day of the month. His mom drove a brand new Cadi and the entire family had wads of large in their pockets.
maybe you'd have to hang out in South Central to understand.
The list of “disallowed” foods, which you can view here, also includes the following:
Cranberry sauce and pie filling. (Poor people can forget about making dessert for Thanksgiving dinner.)
Creamed vegetables
Baked beans
Pickles
Pork and beans
Frozen veggies that come in packages featuring pasta, nuts, rice, cheese, or meats
French fries and hash browns
Sharp cheddar cheese, Swiss, and fresh mozzarella, shredded and sliced cheeses (except American cheese of course), cheese food, spreads, and products. Even Kosher cheese is banned unless you apply to get a specific check for it which basically could identify who the poor Jewish people are.
Canned peas and green beans
Albacore tuna, red salmon, and fish fillets
Bagels, pita bread, English muffins
White rice and wild rice
Taco shells
Almond, rice, goat, and soy milk.
Brown eggs and any eggs produced by cage-free or free range chickens, which basically helps corporate chicken farms
Several kinds of infant food
Anything in bulk
Anything organic or natural
red and yellow potatoes
Basically, Wisconsin Republicans are making it more difficult for poor people to buy food, let alone enjoy the food they eat.
That's a lot of healthy food in that list, including healthy foods that could stretch the budget.
Banning buying things in bulk is particularly idiotic - buying in bulk is cost and time effective.
And why ban non-dairy beverages? They're much healthier than milk is, especially for those who are allergic or lactose intolerant.
That's a lot of healthy food in that list, including healthy foods that could stretch the budget.
Banning buying things in bulk is particularly idiotic - buying in bulk is cost and time effective.
And why ban non-dairy beverages? They're much healthier than milk is, especially for those who are allergic or lactose intolerant.
They got lazy and wanted to put together a list of banned food quick, so they picked the WIC foods list. WIC is a voucher system for infants, pregnant women, and children under 5. Many of the foods that are banned from WIC perfectly nutritious but there is a cheaper equivalent available. I knew a woman who got WIC for her baby and it specified certain brands of formula, brands of OJ, etc.
It was crazy for them to use that list, I don't think they even read it they probably glanced at it and said "oh hell yeah..they won't be able to eat hardly anything, this is perfect!"
Originally Posted by blind melon Im not a liberal and welfare cheats and their baby daddies are real winners in my book
I'm fairly certain blind melon was reiterating the same thing. I think you were lost on the sarcasm.
again with the false meme that conservatives are trying to cut programs. How about they rework the programs to benefit those who truly need it. Welfare has become a revolving door for many who could otherwise lift themselves up, but choose to let others pay their way.
EXP: I had a friend, years ago, who had siblings from several different fathers. His mom was on EVERY welfare program available; section 8 housing, food stamps, bi-monthly support checks...etc. My friend literally had a new pair of kicks for every day of the month. His mom drove a brand new Cadi and the entire family had wads of large in their pockets.
maybe you'd have to hang out in South Central to understand.
I was agreeing with Blind Melon, I was being sarcastic to that other post. Sorry Blind Melon for the misunderstanding.
Why would you be standing next to someone at a grocery store when they are paying for their food? Are you one of those annoying people who crowds the card-reader? I've had to ask some people like that to please get out of my business and give me space to use my card. What's up with that? Are they like you, just snooping?
I've never seen a SNAP card. What do they look like? Do they have large red letters S N A P on the face of them? If not, how do you know what people are paying with?
Maybe it's a New Jersey thing, but I don't like people invading my space. You must do that all the time in order to observe whether someone is paying with a Visa, Master Card, or Snap card.
"observation, indeed!"
MYOB!
The average distance between customers on a Check Our Line is 3-4 feet.
Sorry to hear of your close distance vision difficulties and awareness of your immediate surroundings.
Ever been in a 7-11 especially?
Not a majority I would hope but enough that you can easily observe the abuses.
Lol. I love how it's none of our business how taxpayers' (that'd be us) money is being spent.
And let's consider SNAP "benefits" for the children--since starving children are always being bandied about as the victims. free breakfast, free lunch, even during the summer. Many localities also allow kids to stay for free after-school meals. None of these freebies, BTW, result in a decrease in the monthly food allowance.
It's not about helping people temporarily. It is all about making people on assistance more and more comfortable.
No one with cable, Play Stations, big screen TVs, or iphones, should be getting public assistance. The priority should be food, and it should be theirs to provide it.
No one with cable, Play Stations, big screen TVs, or iphones, should be getting public assistance. The priority should be food, and it should be theirs to provide it.
This is where I am torn, since I've known people who are very poor. How do others expect the poor to live? They need clean clothes and a decent place to live. Of course they shouldn't get free HBO, but in many areas, you can't get any reception with just an antenna. The internet is a great way to communicate with others and keep in touch with family. It's also a learning tool and a way to take courses if you're confined to a wheelchair.
The reason I wrote "I am torn" is because in a country of 319 million, it's impossible to go door-to-door checking on everyone who is on some kind of government assistance, although I know there is a lot of abuse.
There are many people who are really poor and need help. They should not freeze to death in the winter. They shouldn't suffer from the heat in the summer if they live in hot climates. But where do you draw the line? It is difficult for me to express the resentment I feel when I see people who collect assistance from the government living better than I do without writing a book. I'd have to give too many examples. I have a little nest egg, so maybe "better" or "worse" isn't the right word. I should substitute "responsibly" or "frugally" since I try to stick to a budget and live within my means.
I'm a compassionate person (or try to be) so it's very difficult to even write these words. However, I've known people who had heart attacks or got cancer and continued to smoke, drink, and never bothered to lose weight or exercise. I'm referring to people who were covered by Medicaid or on other forms of Welfare. One woman I knew even got a pacemaker for a heart arrhythmia and continued to smoke. It sounds very harsh and judgmental, but why help people who won't make an effort to help themselves?
Many alcoholics and drug addicts are admitted to rehab programs and the cost is covered by the taxpayers. When I had an accident a few years ago and was in the hospital for 5 days, my medical bills totaled $22,000. I made payments and eventually settled a claim, but my point is this: Why should taxpayers foot the bill for their treatment? Darn! I'm not a drug addict and I don't get drunk. Too bad for me, huh?
Sorry for the rant. The system sucks, no question about it. I just don't want programs cut because needy people will suffer. I wish there were a better way to monitor what people eat and how they feed their children. On the other hand, I don't want more government interference and violation of privacy. No wonder I argue with myself!
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free breakfast, free lunch, even during the summer. Many localities also allow kids to stay for free after-school meals. None of these freebies, BTW, result in a decrease in the monthly food allowance.
