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It's all welfare. You get a check from the government. You rely on the government to pay your doctors bill. You are a welfare queen/king.
No, myself and the rest of our seniors have paid into that fund by working all their lives unlike welfare queens and kings that are too lazy to work and didn't. What do you expect the elderly to do just roll over and die? What a despicable human being. Take your hatred and lies elsewhere.
Thanks, OP. That is an interesting, scantly covered important topic, not so much for 1 election, but for cumulative effect, as this compounds in volume over time.
There are plenty of FDR liberals dying off too. I'm pretty young and don't foresee ever voting for a Democrat given the Democrat Party's recent purge of moderates and its extremism.
To tell you the truth, practically any active Tea Partista I've run into is relatively areligious, and certainly isn't Pentecostal. I think it's a bum rap.
I'd say they do tend to be white, older, and against public benefits unless it's called Medicare.
Why should they be against something that they have been forced to pay for their entire working lives?
To tell you the truth, practically any active Tea Partista I've run into is relatively areligious, and certainly isn't Pentecostal. I think it's a bum rap.
I'd say they do tend to be white, older, and against public benefits unless it's called Medicare.
I've never met any nonreligious Tea Partier nor can I think of one in politics or the media. Those people who aren't religious and want very limited government call themselves libertarians. If you went to a libertarian board and called them Tea Partiers, they'd take it as a slur and get very mad and you and possibly ban you.
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LOL, 70% of Americans are professed Christians.
I saw that Pew poll, it declined from 78% Christian in 2007 to 70% in 2014. That's really not a good omen for Christians or conservatism.
The GOP can bring people like me back into the fold with very few changes. I am already pro 2nd amendment,pro life etc. But I am anti war,anti worlds police man,I am pro raising min wage,anti foreign aide to ANYONE,pro workers rights....its like they either don't know or don't care they are barreling towards the end of the tracks at full speed...maybe this will be the end of the GOP in 2016...who knows.
As I've said on here before, and as I said to the idiot in 2003 who boasted this horse manure at a house party, Conservatives aren't going anywhere, too bad. Wait...what just happened in the last election...what's that? Ooooh, that's right, Republicans took more seats.
Pot. Kettle. Black. Do you understand that those midterm elections have nothing to do with the future elections? Probably not,
You have no idea if this is true or not. You are pretending to false certainty because it is comforting for you to do so. In any event, even an apparatchik understands that:
A) Not all of politics is presidential, and GOP dominance of all other branches of government cripples the progressive agenda, and
B) The Red Dawn is a not a recipe for extinction.
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and that will be one of the reasons the GOP loses the general again. Sounds like you have an acute case of hubrisitis.
Actually, I said that no on knows what it going to happen next. You didn't read, just like you don't read news articles.
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No, you don't get it.
You simply are putting your fingers in your ears and making noise. In a way, I find your unwillingness to recognize the facts on the ground as admirable. In other ways I find it comical and sad, but the facts don't change regardless.
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The GOP is still divided.
Not paying attention to the trade fight? Schumer's comments on Obamacare? The Dems attacking Hillary?
The Dems are divided.
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Bush didn't do so well this week with the Iraq War issue, the extreme right wing doesn't like him, yet he is still the only Republican who can win a general election.
Since, on top of all, the world economy is crashing again, it is likely that any republican candidate will have a fighting chance. But it is really irrelevant. The point of the thread is that the GOP is dying off, when in fact, it is stronger than it has ever been.
These are facts. You could research them it you like.
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Rubio shot himself in the foot this morning attempting to answer the same Iraq War question. Rubio and Walker are just not ready for prime time.
Walker won three elections in eight years in a blue-purple state. He would be a great candidate. But all of this is a diversion anyway. The subject of the thread is the overall health of the party, which is thriving and growing.
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The only Republican who can make it past the Iraq War issue is Rand Paul. But can he win the general? Time will tell. This is one war-weary country. They aren't going to be tripping over themselves to vote for war hawks.
Since Hillary shares the same weakness, and since the foreign policy conversation has partially moved towards Obama's incompetence (of which Hillary is a part) you are dramatically over-reaching here.
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All we've heard from the GOP candidates so far is negative Hillary comments and they really have to come up with something a little more creative than that. They have yet to tell America what they will do for the people of the country, what their plans or ideas are--like why anyone should vote for them. Other than from Rand Paul, we've heard no vision. They will have to come up with something better than Hillary this and Hillary that if they want to win, and yet they haven't. The GOP has perfected the art of going negative and still hasn't told anyone what their plans are.
Now you are just writing completely useless air. All you are doing is crying about why you don't like the GOP. We get that you are a liberal. If you weren't, you would not be trying to argue against reality. But the reality remains the same and if you could turn off MSNC you would understand that the Democrat party has been crippled. There is no chance of enacting any kind of progressive agenda for a generation. They are hell and back from wining the house. They are further than that from getting 60 votes or a coalition in the Senate. At the state level, they are wiped out.
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"In fact, the 2014 election results appear to say more about who did not vote than who did: Younger voters and minority communities stayed home in large numbers, as is typical during a midterm election. If trends from the last two presidential elections hold, those same groups are likely to be far more energized during the next White House campaign, making Tuesday's results of limited value in predicting 2016."
This is the Apparatchik party line. No one has any idea if this is true or not. It is an opinion.
And even if true, IF YOU CAN'T GET YOUR PEOPLE TO VOTE IN MID-TERMS, THEN YOU WILL NEVER DOMINATE THE NARRATIVE. THE GOP WILL BE COMPETATIVE FOREVER JUST BASED ON THIS FACT.
This is your reality. Grow used to it, as it will not change in your lifetime.
Yes, you have posted your liberal/Democratic/progressive/socialist opinion sources...they comfort you and it is nice that you have them. They do not change the reality that we are talking about.
Let us be clear- I am talking about the reality on the ground, not your hopes. The GOP are not just winning at the non-presidential level, they are DOMINATING. If you think that is going to change any time soon, please hold your breath. The very worst that can happen is that the GOP will stop the progressive agenda at the congressional and state level. If the new voting patterns hold- and they might despite all of the hot air you have posted- then not only might they win the presidency, but the red wall might return.
Get used to it. The Democratic future is either a split decision victory or a knockout loss. No one knows, and either way, you are not going to see the America that you want.
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