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Old 01-19-2008, 08:41 AM
 
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I find it extrememely hard to believe that Abe Lincoln would be a Republican today since the Republican Party of the 1860s was a completeley different animal than today's conservative GOP. Even though he was a moderate, his party's base of support was in the Northeast/New England and was made up of former Whigs, Free Soilers, Radical Republicans and abolitionists (i.e., America's first "bleeding-heart liberals"). The Democratic Party was the party of "states rights", wealthy plantation owners and slave-holders, and rather arch-conservative elements.

Abe Lincoln first made a name of himself by speaking out against the Mexican-American War in the Illinois legistlature, as a war that was only meant to expand slavery westward (can you say "ANTI-WAR LIBERAL")

Abe Lincoln was also hated in the South (he didn't recieve a SINGLE VOTE in the South!), was even accused to being half-black, even though he was not as radical as some other Republicans.

My question is this: if Abe Lincoln were alive today, what contemporary politician is he most like? I'm guessing a rather mainstream liberal from the Midwest like Russ Feingold....or perphaps even Barack Obama
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:46 AM
 
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He also destroyed the idea of state's right. Which is a pretty good liberal idea. Didn't he also get our first (albeit temporary) income tax passed to pay for the war?

Yeah, I tend to agree with you on this...then again, I've never been a big Lincoln fan.
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Old 01-19-2008, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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He would be a Democrat today. As would Ike Eisenhower. 2 really good Presidents.
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Old 01-19-2008, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Boise
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A lot of what Lincoln did was unconstitutional, he transformed himself into a dictator. Sounds like a Democrat, or at least a Bush Republican.
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Old 01-19-2008, 09:30 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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He also destroyed the idea of state's right. Which is a pretty good liberal idea. Didn't he also get our first (albeit temporary) income tax passed to pay for the war?

Yeah, I tend to agree with you on this...then again, I've never been a big Lincoln fan.


I've read that one of Huckabee's ideas is no states' rights on moral issues, I'd say the destruction of states' rights is promoted on both sides of the aisle.
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Old 01-19-2008, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Actually I doubt Abe would even be in politics today. No honor no honesty most definetly no loyalty to America in todays politics. He wouldn't get elected to town councilman.
Our founding fathers if there is an after life are most likely shaking their heads in disgust at what our politics have turned into.
No less than they are disgusted by todays ambulance chasing lawyers.
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:53 AM
 
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I think that there is a good chance that Lincoln would be a liberal Democrat today. Through out the history of the United States, the South has voted as a bloc. The South today is strongly Republican. The Republican party was the more progressive party in the 1800s. The progressiveness of the parties have slowly reversed. Just look at Strom Thurmond, who started his career as a southern Democrat and ended his career as a Republican.
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:56 AM
 
Location: Everybody is going to hurt you, you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for-B Marley
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WTH? LMAO What a lame topic. You're missing Bush already, aren't you?
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Old 09-02-2009, 02:43 PM
 
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Abraham Lincoln would have had to be a liberal because only liberal democrats are for African American rights, Woops I forgot about Sen. Robert Byrd {Democrat} used to be in the KKK. Do your research before you open your liberal mouth it makes you sound even more stupid than you are.
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Old 09-02-2009, 02:52 PM
 
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He would be a Democrat today. As would Ike Eisenhower. 2 really good Presidents.
what an indepth well substantiated opinion. "2 really good Presidents."

Im starting to think you maybe a neocon plant trying to make the neolibs look stupid.
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