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Old 05-19-2015, 06:22 PM
 
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The Obama administration just took a huge step toward demilitarizing US police forces - Business Insider

Great, long overdue move!
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Old 05-19-2015, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Long overdue, but remember it was Obama that said he wanted a civil force that was equal to or larger than the military.
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Old 05-19-2015, 06:58 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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The lesson I drew from Ferguson and Baltimore is that we need highly militarized police forces because we have an extremely violent and lawless population with little regard for human life and less for property and none for the rule of law.
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Old 05-19-2015, 07:04 PM
 
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The lesson we should have learned is we need cops walking a beat again, not hiding in tanks. Not riding in cars. Walking the same beat, day in, day out. At community events, day in, day out.
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Old 05-19-2015, 07:07 PM
 
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Create a problem and then try to solve it and wait for applause. That's the government for ya. But I was listening to urban talk on Sirius this morning and this topic was brought up. If you think Rush listeners are paranoid and live in caves on other planets, these urban callers make them sound enlightened. They think its a racist program instituted and directed against African americans when its obviously a problem the entire country needs to worry about and faces and has increased under Obama more than any other President although its started under Clinton and grown as well under Bush.
We don't need militarized police or a government control over a civil army. No brownshirts or gestapo or bundists here, thank you. Honestly, Obama is all over the map on this. He wants to militarize the police and increase the firepower of numerous agencies and turn them on the American people, then he wants the people to turn on the police.
Maybe some maniac that voted for him can explain his insanity.
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Old 05-19-2015, 07:10 PM
 
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Long overdue, but remember it was Obama that said he wanted a civil force that was equal to or larger than the military.
This isn't mutually exclusive. The ramp down in militarization is referring to *local* police (not an unreasonable concept).

The impression I've gotten is that the push is for militarization of non-military federal agencies. You can argue that the professional military is a hierarchy that is not in the same corner as the current administration and that an alternative armed service is viewed as a desirable thing.
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Old 05-19-2015, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Create a problem and then try to solve it and wait for applause. That's the government for ya. But I was listening to urban talk on Sirius this morning and this topic was brought up. If you think Rush listeners are paranoid and live in caves on other planets, these urban callers make them sound enlightened. They think its a racist program instituted and directed against African americans when its obviously a problem the entire country needs to worry about and faces and has increased under Obama more than any other President although its started under Clinton and grown as well under Bush.
We don't need militarized police or a government control over a civil army. No brownshirts or gestapo or bundists here, thank you. Honestly, Obama is all over the map on this. He wants to militarize the police and increase the firepower of numerous agencies and turn them on the American people, then he wants the people to turn on the police.
Maybe some maniac that voted for him can explain his insanity.
Yes indeed. Obama's very own DHS armed and trained our local LE forces.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:11 PM
 
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When police militarization is used on blacks cons call it policing. When it's used on whites they call it martial law
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Old 05-20-2015, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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When police militarization is used on blacks cons call it policing. When it's used on whites they call it martial law
I disagree. Many on here were talking about the militarization of the police when they came out in force and went door to door in Boston looking for the bomber guy.
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Old 05-20-2015, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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One of the few things he has done that I agree with. The local police don't need automatic weapons and armored personnel carriers to "keep the peace". Automatic weapons fire is suppressive fire, meant to keep the enemy pinned down while other troops move into position to engage them. What use is that to a civilian police force?

Though the actions of some violent animals in Ferguson and Baltimore does have me questioning my opinion. Since the police don't step up and allow the thugs to run wild anyway, what's the point?
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