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Old 05-20-2015, 07:25 PM
 
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By law, I don't see how it can be consensual. He was slapped on the wrist for contributing to her delinquency as a MINOR.

But you can't grasp that because he's white, so therefore it's ok since the mom may have "consented" to it.

No, what you can supposedly see is that if this guy were black, he wouldn't be around. That's what you took from a clear case of statutory rape by a white dude.

Apples. SMH

Maybe I don't have a complete understanding of the law in VA, but I also don't understand how it can be "consensual" when she is clearly under 18, and he is clearly over 18. The age of consent usually applies in "Romeo and Juliet" situations, to avoid imprisoning an 18 year old high school senior for having sex with his 15 year old high school sophomore girlfriend. We've all been there at least once.

But........ this creeper perv was 55 when he was having sex with a 17 year-old.

A 55 year-old screwing a 17 year-old.

How dafuq is he not charged with statutory rape? This guy should be locked up.
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Old 05-20-2015, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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A Chronology: Key Moments In The Clinton-Lewinsky Saga

If my arithmetic is correct bill Clinton was 56 when he met Monica at age 19. Now he's a big hero and national treasure, and will likely be 'first man' in 2017. Someone explain to me why Clinton should be a big hero while Joe Morrisey should be locked up.
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Old 05-20-2015, 09:00 PM
 
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I guess.

Lord help him if he was black and she was white.
Conservative tea party types would have roundes up the posse and rope
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Old 05-20-2015, 09:09 PM
 
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A Chronology: Key Moments In The Clinton-Lewinsky Saga

If my arithmetic is correct bill Clinton was 56 when he met Monica at age 19. Now he's a big hero and national treasure, and will likely be 'first man' in 2017. Someone explain to me why Clinton should be a big hero while Joe Morrisey should be locked up.
Bill Clinton didn't create a statutory situation due to the fact that Lewinsky was 19, but he did earn a spot on the Mount Rushmore of Creeper Pervs.

It's embarrassing that he's regarded as highly as he is. He's really nothing more than an aging pervert who has a decades-long string of very questionable sexual escapades.

Guys like Morrisey and Bill Clinton are the epitome of sleazy politicians.
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Old 05-20-2015, 09:36 PM
 
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To be fair, you have to admit that when the likes of Marion Barry get reelected.....
He was a good mayor. You have no idea what he did for DC....yet you are only focused on his extra curricula activites. Honestly, why do we care what he does in his personal life. He was relected for the good he did for the city.
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Old 05-20-2015, 09:47 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Bill Clinton didn't create a statutory situation due to the fact that Lewinsky was 19, but he did earn a spot on the Mount Rushmore of Creeper Pervs.

It's embarrassing that he's regarded as highly as he is. He's really nothing more than an aging pervert who has a decades-long string of very questionable sexual escapades.

Guys like Morrisey and Bill Clinton are the epitome of sleazy politicians.

Sleazy, or just a typical dude, when a woman wants to give it to him, while no one is around to see.
It is not like they were held down against their free will.

Personally, I have never seen the back of a womans head, I didn't like.
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Old 05-20-2015, 11:21 PM
 
Location: VB
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Maybe I don't have a complete understanding of the law in VA, but I also don't understand how it can be "consensual" when she is clearly under 18, and he is clearly over 18. The age of consent usually applies in "Romeo and Juliet" situations, to avoid imprisoning an 18 year old high school senior for having sex with his 15 year old high school sophomore girlfriend. We've all been there at least once.

But........ this creeper perv was 55 when he was having sex with a 17 year-old.

A 55 year-old screwing a 17 year-old.

How dafuq is he not charged with statutory rape? This guy should be locked up.
It's because "statutory rape" doesn't really exist as a crime in Virginia. Instead, there are two laws in force covering it -- this one having to do with adults with 15-17 year-olds (part (ii) is where Morrissey falls):

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§ 18.2-371. Causing or encouraging acts rendering children delinquent, abused, etc.; penalty. Any person eighteen years of age or older, including the parent of any child, who

(i) willfully contributes to, encourages, or causes any act, omission, or condition which renders a child delinquent, in need of services, in need of supervision, or abused or neglected as defined in §16.1-228,or

(ii) engages in consensual sexual intercourse with a child fifteen or older not his spouse, child, or grandchild, shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor[....]
and this one for 13-15 year-olds

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§ 18.2-63. Carnal knowledge of child between thirteen and fifteen years of age.
If any person carnally knows, without the use of force, a child thirteen years of age or older but under fifteen years of age, such person shall be guilty of a Class 4 felony.

However, if such child is thirteen years of age or older but under fifteen years of age and consents to sexual intercourse and the accused is a minor and such consenting child is three years or more the accused's junior, the accused shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony. If such consenting child is less than three years the accused's junior, the accused shall be guilty of a Class 4 misdemeanor[....]
VA Department of Health Statutory Rape
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Old 05-20-2015, 11:24 PM
 
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Maybe I don't have a complete understanding of the law in VA, but I also don't understand how it can be "consensual" when she is clearly under 18, and he is clearly over 18. The age of consent usually applies in "Romeo and Juliet" situations, to avoid imprisoning an 18 year old high school senior for having sex with his 15 year old high school sophomore girlfriend. We've all been there at least once.

But........ this creeper perv was 55 when he was having sex with a 17 year-old.

A 55 year-old screwing a 17 year-old.

How dafuq is he not charged with statutory rape? This guy should be locked up.
That's what i wanna know. How is that possible?
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Old 05-20-2015, 11:59 PM
 
Location: VB
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That's what i wanna know. How is that possible?
Under VA law, a 13-year-old can consent to sex (but it's still illegal -- see my previous post).

In Virginia, the penalty for an adult of any age having consensual sex with a 15-year old is the same as for reckless driving, which may be charged for going 81 in a 70 mph speed limit zone.

(Reckless driving by speed is 20+ over the limit, or anything over 80 regardless of the speed limit. It's a Class 1 misdemeanor, just like the "Causing or encouraging acts rendering children delinquent" charge to which Morrissey entered an Alford plea.)

Last edited by jobber123rd; 05-21-2015 at 12:39 AM.. Reason: typo
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Old 05-21-2015, 12:06 AM
 
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Under VA law, a 13-year-old can consent to sex (but it's still illegal -- see my previous post).

In Virginia, the penalty for an adult of any age having consensual sex with a 15-year old is the same as for reckless driving, which may be charged for going 81 in a 70 mph speed limit zone.

(Reckless driving by speed is 20+ over the limit, or anything over 80 regardless of the speed limit. It's a Class 1 misdemeanor, just like the "Causing or encouraging acts rendering children delinquent" charge to which Morrissey entered and Alford plea.)
Wow..ok well.
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