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View Poll Results: Leftists do you consider Obama or Hillary left wing
Obama yes Hillary no 2 5.71%
Hillary yes Obama no 1 2.86%
Yes both are 8 22.86%
No, neither are 24 68.57%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-21-2015, 09:35 AM
 
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Katzpaw, mma, phma and Ed from California are leftists? Wow. Didn't know that. Oh, nevermind. They just don't know how to read a 5th grade level poll

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Oh good, a C-D leftist list.


This is like a "Conservatives, who's ideas do you care for more ; Conservatives or Leftists?" poll.
LOL, relax, gramps. Cold War's over, and McCarthy is long dead
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Old 05-21-2015, 09:50 AM
 
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Con here: I see Obama as far left on every issue. Hillary, I see as pro-economy and pro-America, but is a liberal on social issues---kinda in a 60's hippie kind of way.

The Clintons are very smart and pragmatic----over time, I've grown to like ole Bill---and I think Hillary will rule much like he did.

The Obamas----really really really made me miss ole Bill. I detest everything they stand for----race baiters, anti-strong America, pro-Islam / anti-Israel, anti capitalism, anti democracy. He's a scared little boy searching for the love of a father who didn't give a damn about him....and of a mother who largely abandoned him.
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I know conservative republicans consider them commies, but do leftists claim either one of them as their own
Core Libertarians are the only true moderates, being fiscal conservatives and social liberals.

Obama and Clinton are both left of center, and Warren (a true socialist) is driving Clinton even further left.

I had to vote that both are, and find it amazing that most people believe them to be centrists. Bill was forced to move toward the center, and found a way to work with the GOP, in his second term. I don't believe Hillary has the ability to adapt in the same way. There are so many contradictions in her messaging, and she'll bring a whole new meaning to flip flop if she becomes president.

If she wins it'll be for the perception of fighting for the 99%, but her reign will be to further enrich the 1%.

Obama has been GWB 2.0, and Clinton will be Obama 2.0.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss!

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The Clintons are very smart and pragmatic----over time, I've grown to like ole Bill---and I think Hillary will rule much like he did.
...and that's the problem!
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Left to Right Meter:

Marx - Sanders - Warren - Obama - Hillary - Jeb - Paul - Rubio - Other GOP Candidates - Jerry Falwell - Satan


Mick
Satan is a conservative?
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:19 AM
 
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Hills is center, Obama is a little left of center.
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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And Reagan was not. Neocons were forced on Reagan whether he wanted them around or not.

Activist Post: Barney Miller: NWO and Trilateral Commission Explained in 2 Minutes by Jeffrey Tambor

As I said before, who cares what the Puppet personally thinks if he is still on the strings?

People say that Obama had Neocons forced on him as well, but there has to be some personal responsibility-especially when you are the Chief in Command. Why defend any of these spineless traitors?

I agree with the link, and absolutely despise Rockefeller, Kissinger, Brzezinski. They all deserve to rot in Hell.
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:32 AM
 
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Katzpaw, mma, phma and Ed from California are leftists? Wow. Didn't know that. Oh, nevermind. They just don't know how to read a 5th grade level poll





LOL, relax, gramps. Cold War's over, and McCarthy is long dead
Every one knows how cons would answer they are so predictable. I also knew they would amswer even they knew the poll was not for them. if someone predicted how I would answer I wouldnt even bother answeing, what for.
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Old 05-21-2015, 11:56 AM
 
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Every one knows how cons would answer they are so predictable. I also knew they would amswer even they knew the poll was not for them. if someone predicted how I would answer I wouldnt even bother answeing, what for.
Which is a good thing you made the poll public. Anybody on the left knows Obama and Hillary are corporate stooges. This way you know which idgits decided to muddy the waters.

But of course con(artist)s are predictable. If they were capable of thinking, they wouldn't be cons.
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Old 05-21-2015, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Compared to RWNJs, both Obama and Clinton are the second coming of Karl Marx.

In the minds of RWNJs, both Obama and Clinton are the second coming of Karl Marx.

But the reality - an elusive concept for RWNJs - is that both are in the political center. On some issues they are liberal; on others, conservative ... much like the rest of the country.

They may both appear to be left or left-of-center, but that's just when they are compared with the foaming-at-the-mouth rapid right.
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Old 05-21-2015, 01:11 PM
 
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I am neither left or right but a Pro American.

Both of those are Neocon Globalists along with many others.
Anyone that sells out the country for special interests.

Add Cruz and Rand Paul to the list at the top as well since they voted yea for the TPP


So being a Pro American is being a leftist?

Trans Pacific Partnership Vote

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