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Old 05-22-2015, 09:18 AM
 
Location: PA
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Orrin Hatch on Trade Bill: 'I Don't Know Fully What's in TPP Myself' - Breitbart

Seriously WHY? Why in the hell is this allowed.
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:03 AM
 
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The country has been sold out to Global Corporations that own our government and have no need for Nation States anymore.
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Wikileaks. You can learn about 1/4th of TTP. After that, you probably wouldn't want to know what the rest is all about.

The idea that our government represents the people is a joke. Collateral damage... That's all the US citizens are anymore. And yes, the corporations can basically hold the nation, and it's citizens hostage, per their interests and demands.

It is allowed because the American people have become divided and docile. They can't stand together on anything, so they fall together like bowling pins. Blaming Obama for everything feels good, which is exactly why corporations love him.
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:13 AM
 
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You dont want to know whats in it, youre mot going to like it
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:21 AM
 
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Can you name a single major "accomplishment" of the Obama Administration, at least anything going through Congress, that HASN'T been this secret? Remember the "We have to pass this before we can read it" line from the ACA non-debate?

Practically, I'd guess they have loaded the deal with "pot sweeteners" to get votes, and what your state may see as a "pot sweetener" MY state may see as a deal killer. It may not be that geographical' they may have inserted language that helps Unions, say to get language that protects GMO crops or something similar.
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:30 AM
 
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Can you name a single major "accomplishment" of the Obama Administration, at least anything going through Congress, that HASN'T been this secret? Remember the "We have to pass this before we can read it" line from the ACA non-debate?

Practically, I'd guess they have loaded the deal with "pot sweeteners" to get votes, and what your state may see as a "pot sweetener" MY state may see as a deal killer. It may not be that geographical' they may have inserted language that helps Unions, say to get language that protects GMO crops or something similar.
Republicans LOVE this deal. They can have him
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Everyone should keep in mind, this deal EXCLUDES China. They are not happy about that, and are trying to make adjustments in their country that will allow for them to join at a later time. I think this is a silent attempt to stunt overwhelming competition from China in multiple domestic industries.

Corporations cannot compete against a well organized, communist command system. US doesn't want competition on the global stage. Corporations don't want to create super powers. They want subservient slave nations. Basically, more China's of 20 years ago.

Inevitably, this rush to pass a complex measure will spur more unintended consequences that will probably do more harm than good, when the dust settles. Corporations are very good at playing elected idiots for the fools they are.
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Old 05-22-2015, 01:18 PM
 
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I read what was available to reed several months ago. What it looked like was the back door entry to implement the New Word Order. Corporations demands both foreign and domestic could overrule laws which would take president over many long standing laws we have enacted for our protection. They will open the gates to the treasury department and rob us blind to pay for it also. That is why they want to fast track it. They will then tell you that there is no way for them to get out of the treaty no matter how much harm it does to the general welfare of the people. We know that is B.S. just looking at the history of treaty's we made with Native Americans. More and more city's will look like Detroit and Boston as we are hurled into poverty of a third world nation.
As the member nations reduce us to a corpse it will leave us at the the mercy of other non member nations to pick the flesh off our bones. To support and enact this treaty should be an act of treason.

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Old 05-22-2015, 01:52 PM
 
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"We need to pass it to find out what is in it"

You area little late complaining now!
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Old 05-22-2015, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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politicians now use ignorance as a vail. Remember Pelosi saying she had no clue what was in the ACA (Obamacare) yet exclaimed that "we must pass it in order to know what's in it!"


If we the people ran our households on the same premise, we'd all be thrown in jail!
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