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Old 05-22-2015, 12:46 PM
 
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Originally Posted by dsjj251 View Post
There was no rule in place that said the secretary of state could not use private emails. The rule you are likely siting is one that did not take affect until 2014, well after CLinton had left the Administration.



refer to first response. If you are referring to some other rule that you believe was in place, then please post a link
You obviously have never signed a governmental Acceptable Use Policy....

Did hilliary? No clue, but she should have and it clearly states what she did was wrong...

 
Old 05-22-2015, 12:47 PM
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Here is the link to the Department of State's Foreign Affairs Manual from 2005.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/88404.pdf Page 5 is where the section starts that she violated and clearly talks about the security risks.
The link you provided says the electronic communications must be done on properly secured Channels. No where does it say you can not use non state department email, only that it must be approved and secure.

try again. I think you posted that link without ever even reading it.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 12:49 PM
 
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The link you provided says the electronic communications must be done on properly secured Channels. No where does it say you can not us non state department email, only that it must be approved and secure.

try again.
Yes, top secret material can be put on your private computer....
 
Old 05-22-2015, 12:50 PM
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You obviously have never signed a governmental Acceptable Use Policy....

Did hilliary? No clue, but she should have and it clearly states what she did was wrong...
Your argument is that the document that the Secretary of State signs would be equal to that of some low level employee, think about that for a second.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 12:53 PM
 
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Your argument is that the document that the Secretary of State signs would be equal to that of some low level employee, think about that for a second.
No, you think about it. If we low level workers have to sign an acceptable use policy, what do you think she has to sign?

Also, everyone in the government must takes OPSEC yearly training, even the SES's must take this training.

You have failed this training, try again.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 01:00 PM
 
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The link you provided says the electronic communications must be done on properly secured Channels. No where does it say you can not use non state department email, only that it must be approved and secure.

try again. I think you posted that link without ever even reading it.
She didn't get it approved and I know that because the State Department didn't know the e-mails existed.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 01:01 PM
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No, you think about it. If we low level workers have to sign an acceptable use policy, what do you think she has to sign?
I think what ever she had to sign gives her far more power than someone at the low level could ever hope to have. plain and simple seeing as she actually made the rules in the state department
 
Old 05-22-2015, 01:03 PM
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She didn't get it approved and I know that because the State Department didn't know the e-mails existed.
Approved, defined by the manual you posted, means "met requirement", not "submitted paperwork to notify".
 
Old 05-22-2015, 01:04 PM
 
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Approved, defined by the manual you posted, means "met requirement", not "submitted paperwork to notify".
Now you're stretching. Can you define "is?"
 
Old 05-22-2015, 01:07 PM
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Now you're stretching. Can you define "is?"
You posted the link, but im stretching by quoting it ????? LOL

Quote:
d. In the absence of a Department-provided secure method, employees with a
valid business need may transmit SBU information over the Internet
unencrypted after carefully considering that:
(1) SBU information within the category in 12 FAM 541b(7)(a) and (b) must
never be sent unencrypted via the Internet;
(2) Unencrypted information transmitted via the Internet is susceptible to
access by unauthorized personnel;
(3) Email transmissions via the Internet generally consist of multipoint
communications that are routed to their destination through the path of
least resistance, which may include multiple foreign and U.S. controlled
Internet service providers (ISP);
(4) Once resident on an ISP server, the SBU information remains until it is
overwritten;
(5) Unencrypted email transmissions are subject to a risk of compromise of
information confidentiality or integrity;
Also to be clear, I believe the state department did know she used a personal email, I mean the fact that it didnt have dot.gov after it would tip them off would it not ????
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