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Old 05-22-2015, 01:24 PM
 
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As you can see from the actual quote, approved simply means met requirement as I already explained to you and quoted for you.

you are now arguing in circles
Under no context does "approved" mean it's up to the person seeking approval to determine if it's good enough.

 
Old 05-22-2015, 01:25 PM
 
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Amazing that people will defend anything and everything this woman does and says. And they think nothing of a weekend document dump.

You have to questions someone's mental makeup if they honestly believe this woman is Presidential material. You think the transparency and over reach by Obama was bad, you can only imagine how much worse itll be with her.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 01:26 PM
 
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psssttt, he claimed the link proved his point, it did the opposite.You claimed OPSEC proves your point so if you have the OPSEC Secretary Clinton signed, please post it and prove your point.
That 9 page document clearly stated that it must be approved....not sure why you cannot read.

If you are government, you MUST sign an acceptable use policy...

Period, end of story...

I've been working for the government for 27 years now....the man guy over AMRDEC MUST sign an acceptable use policy...

Like it or not those are the rules....
 
Old 05-22-2015, 01:28 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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From the "vast right wing conspiracy" of ABC news:

2005

The Foreign Affairs Manual was codified by the State Department, which ruled in 2005 that employees could only use private email accounts for official business if they turned those emails over to be entered into government computers.

That ruling also forbade State Department employees from including "sensitive but unclassified" information on private email, except for some very narrow exceptions.

2009

Justin Cooper, a longtime aide to former President Bill Clinton, registered the clintonemail.com domain on Jan. 13, a little more than a week before Hillary Clinton took office as secretary of state on Jan. 21.

It was also a year when another rule went into place regarding the use of private email. According to the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations in 2009, if an agency allows its employees to use a personal email account, it must ensure that the emails are “preserved in the appropriate agency recordkeeping system.”

2012

Clinton was not the only one in the diplomatic service to use a personal email account, but it appears that someone else got in trouble for their habit.

As part of a 2012 report by the Office of the Inspector General, the then-Ambassador to Kenya Scott Gration was reprimanded for using private email and other issues.

The report suggested his "use of commercial email for official government business" amounted to a failure to "adhere to department regulations and government information security standards."


Page 2: Hillary Clinton Emails: A Timeline of What Rules Were Allegedly Ignored - ABC News
Dude, you just read that very manual yourself and it doesnt even make that claim.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 01:30 PM
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That 9 page document clearly stated that it must be approved....not sure why you cannot read.

If you are government, you MUST sign an acceptable use policy...

Period, end of story...

I've been working for the government for 27 years now....the man guy over AMRDEC MUST sign an acceptable use policy...

Like it or not those are the rules....
Your argument is flawed on multiple levels, I never said it wasnt approved(you guys did and neither proved it), but the document doesnt define approved as having to submit for certification, it defines it by a criteria which i quoted in a pervious post and neither of you 2 posting seem to be able to point to where it agrees with your argument.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 01:32 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Amazing that people will defend anything and everything this woman does and says. And they think nothing of a weekend document dump.

You have to questions someone's mental makeup if they honestly believe this woman is Presidential material. You think the transparency and over reach by Obama was bad, you can only imagine how much worse itll be with her.
still waiting on your to post a link to the email you claimed backs up your story. You clearly have the ability to post photos of specific email pages so why cant you post a photo of the page you claim proves your point ???


Or is it that you just made up your OP(or copied it from a right wing news source) without ever researching to see if it was true ???
 
Old 05-22-2015, 01:37 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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It seems we may already have a Hillary 2016 operative here...
 
Old 05-22-2015, 01:44 PM
 
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Your argument is flawed on multiple levels, I never said it wasnt approved(you guys did and neither proved it), but the document doesnt define approved as having to submit for certification, it defines it by a criteria which i quoted in a pervious post and neither of you 2 posting seem to be able to point to where it agrees with your argument.
I never claimed that document was a catch all.

You are playing words, what do you think certification means? That she approves it?

Also, why are you avoiding the OPSEC rules and regulations? Do you really think OPSEC is 9 pages?
 
Old 05-22-2015, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Yes, top secret material can be put on your private computer....
I think some people are confusing home computer with their own private server. Here's the setup that the Clinton's have/had which apparently was set up initially by Bill Clinton. It clearly outlines the security setups, encryptions necessary and constant maintenance in order to remain PRIVATE.

How to Set Up a Clinton-Style Home Email Server - The Atlantic

something interesting that ensures not only privacy but it indicates that everything is kept separate..so hacking into system wouldn't even have access to security informations..

snip~A home server allows someone complete control over their digital correspondence. Emails do not live on a server in a datacenter that companies may be sifting through for ad targeting—they live on a hard drive in your living room. In the Clintons’ case, they may have wanted to be in control of the encryption of their correspondence, ensuring that no third parties—whether commercial, hacker, or government—were able to snoop on them. Hillary Clinton said at her press conference on March 10 that the server had originally been set up for Bill Clinton after he left office.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 01:47 PM
 
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Your argument is flawed on multiple levels, I never said it wasnt approved(you guys did and neither proved it), but the document doesnt define approved as having to submit for certification, it defines it by a criteria which i quoted in a pervious post and neither of you 2 posting seem to be able to point to where it agrees with your argument.
You're saying we're talking in circles and we are because you're second guessing the definition of "approved." If you're going to question definitions of simple terms, then there's no way to have a real discussion. Also, if you're defense hinges on questioning definitions of terms, you're probably in bad shape.
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