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Tennessee already does offer free tuition for a two year community college degree. I think this is worthwhile for workforce education. If a student wants to continue on to a four year degree they can do so on their own dime.
I would agree with this. On the aspect of government-paid "education," most of that package should be government-paid "workforce education" rather than "bachelor degrees for everyone." Most of the funding should be for technical training, technical apprenticeships, and certification course fees.
Sounds like a great way to train doctors, nurses, teachers, engineers, etc! Bring it on! Drop licensing requirements, too!
Reading comprehension fail. I never said all professions.
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Public schools suck. Huge classes with education mandated by people with a political agenda for social engineering. One of the many reasons why my daughter attends parochial school. No gender confused, brain damaged idiots, no political agenda.
Sounds like college. Or community college at least.
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75 pages..no pictures..wow, such onerous requirements.
I got a similar length instruction book at age 18 at a telemarketing job during college. (It was the #2 US telemarketer at the time with about 800 employees).
There were more to follow, if that makes you feel better.
I'm sure that telemarketing job genuinely required all those pages too...
Free tuition for all would be a huge waste of money, but America could easily afford to make college free for the limited number who are really qualified to attend.
"for the limited number who are really qualified to attend."
The problem toady is way too many go to college that are NOT qualified to attend.
So true. But just about everyone wants to go. And some come from districts (like apparently, T310's) where the public schools "suck."
That's because school counselors and the rest of society incessantly sell the idea that college is the only valid option. It's rare that a kid ever hears of technical training as an equally viable option, even though by the time a kid is in the tenth grade, those for whom technical training is the more viable option become apparent. And these days few schools have a robust technical preparation curriculum, even though that's what 70% of kids actually need.
Colleges are not selling 'education' - they're selling CREDENTIALS.
You can learn any way, any time, any place, but without those credentials, that education won't comply with Labor laws, etc., etc.
If you want to drive down the cost for credentials, let government offer credentials - by - examination.
That would kill off the monopoly that accredited institutions rely on.
(& those exams could be very inexpensive, or at the least, have fees waived for those who demonstrate scholarship)
My understanding is that the "free" college in Germany isn't free for everyone, they have strict standards to be accepted and if you don't make it, you don't a free education.
Which is in a way ok with me, I think that not all people are cut out for college. Not for lack of intelligence but some people learn and do things differently. I think the trades are a good place for a lot of people, people that like to work with their hands, not everyone wants to be a doctor or an engineer.
At the end of the day we need all things across the spectrum and a lot of advanced degrees and things that can simply be learned by reading, not necessarily sitting in a college classroom.
I guess I view things from a more practical and pragmatic point of view. I do however value education, I think people should have access to college..... how to pay for it, not sure, don't have the answers there.... I do know that we are taxed into high heaven here in California so I'm not really thrilled about more taxes.
I do think that having technology like on-line courses is going to get more popular in the future, I know people at work sort of scoff at on-line schools, but I think that they, if anything, can require more self discipline to actually do, you need to have more focus to get through them... this is of course just my opinion.
More college-educated baristas doesn't seem like a solution to any problem the US now has.
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