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Back to "I can't argue that gay marriage does actual harm, so I'll claim it's part of a sinister master plan"?
Wasn't that the OP?
I can make that argument and I did. I think you missed the point of the original article, but I'm not surprised. You probably didn't read it anyway.
The point of the original article was that homosexual activists unwittingly help the far Left, the "Progressives" in their destruction of the culture, by doing their part in the destruction of the traditional family and marriage, and also religion.
But nice try.
By the way, there is a plan, and Barrack Obama and his "fundamental transformation" are part of it. Would you deny that Marx was sinister and had a plan? He was sinister, and he and others who followed him do have a plan, and it's playing out right here in America.
I think you missed the point of the original article, but I'm not surprised. You probably didn't read it anyway.
Your quoted bits did not make it, how do I put it, very appealing?
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The point of the original article was that homosexual activists unwittingly help the far Left, the "Progressives" in their destruction of the culture, by doing their part in the destruction of the traditional family and marriage, and also religion.
And when challenged, you were unable to point out how gay marriage helps "doing their part in the destruction of the traditional family and marriage, and also religion". But nice try.
As I said upthread: Gay marriage changes your marriage if you're gay and wish to marry. If neither applies to you, there's no change to your marriage whatsoever.
I can make that argument and I did. I think you missed the point of the original article, but I'm not surprised. You probably didn't read it anyway.
The point of the original article was that homosexual activists unwittingly help the far Left, the "Progressives" in their destruction of the culture, by doing their part in the destruction of the traditional family and marriage, and also religion.
But nice try.
By the way, there is a plan, and Barrack Obama and his "fundamental transformation" are part of it. Would you deny that Marx was sinister and had a plan? He was sinister, and he and others who followed him do have a plan, and it's playing out right here in America.
The government is trying to dictate how we think on social issues..
The government is trying to dictate how we think on social issues..
You can think whatever you want. As it happens, thinking gay marriage is an abomination is becoming a minority point of view, so you may run into people contradicting you when you air it. And if you feel the need to argue it, I think this thread may serve as a how-not-to.
As homosexual activists seek to destroy religion and the traditional family in order to gain acceptance, "equal rights," and establishment of their lifestyle as normal, they play right into the hands of the radical Leftists, the "Progressives," or Cultural Marxists.
But it's not. No modern progressive looks back to the people you're claiming they do. You can say that it's about influence, but even then your assertion is pretty absurd.
I still never got an answer: exactly why does the destruction of the family unit matter? By that I mean, who thinks they have something to gain. I've read Marx, and I know what he said, which is why I know that his goal wasn't actually that. I don't dispute his disdain for religion, but he wasn't actually out to remove families from existence, probably because doing that would be entirely pointless. Which just so we're clear on what I'm asking, or rather what you'll ignore for the fourth time now, who wins when the family unit is destroyed? And what exactly did they win at? Does that help them in some way?
The Truth by passes you and you may never figure it out until you meet your maker and it will be too late. That is why there is free will and the rights and laws that man passes.
This country was based on Christian / Judo principles and it is every where you look thru out history. The Church actual brought strength and balance where the Kings Law did not apply.
Christians however will not support a fallen moral life style, but they will not disrespect you as a person. We hope the Holy Sprit will inspire you others with Fallen life Styles. The reason I bring this up is you o like others Dana in LA, choose to take swings at the principles of People with Faith.
Just because Christians do not approve of you choices, does not make everyone a homophobe. It is what it is. Gays live there lives in the matter which they choose. But do not force your hobby with real life and Christians with values.
Yes, that is what you believe. However, I don't believe it. So what? None of anything you say gives a secular reason for the secular US government to prohibit SSM.
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Marriage,(One Man and One Women) Christianity and the Family Union is the glue that makes this country Great.
Funny, I thought the glue that holds us together is the US Constitution. And in it, I find no acknowledgement that promoting a particular family structure is the main point of abandoning the Articles of Confederation, which, in the judgement of the people living then, was *not* doing the job of holding the nation together. Surely, as articulate as the founders were, if they had thought that family structure was a critical issue in the troubles the US was experiencing in holding together, they would have said something about it.
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But Gays have the luxury of having the same rights as a citizen. In other countries like Iran, they are shot!destructive end result. Despite what fury you throw at the Majority of regular , straight people.
No, gay people don't yet have full citizenship rights. Hopefully, they soon will. And don't expect me to congratulate you because you don't countenance shooting people because they are gay. Being better than Iran in this respect is a pretty low bar to crawl over.
I don't care what you believe or do in your own life.
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The Majority of Americans may accept because it been passed some court (We tend to be a legalist Society) , but as life style choice that gay people make will never become normal. Americans will still look at this as a destructive end result. Despite what fury you throw at the Majority of regular , straight people.
We don't *tend* to be a legalistic society. We *are* a society that is governed by secular law, not religious doctrine. And we also value the idea that every citizen is equal before the law.
However many times you repeat that most Americans agree with you about homosexuals and SSM, the evidence is all the other way. And continuing to move away from your position at an amazingly quick pace.
By the way, there is a plan, and Barrack Obama and his "fundamental transformation" are part of it.
Oh, really. The proletariat is about to take to arms and take control of the means of production? Nobody tells me anything.
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Would you deny that Marx was sinister and had a plan? He was sinister, and he and others who followed him do have a plan, and it's playing out right here in America.
Unbridled 19th-century capitalism begat Marx. His plan was an egghead ivory-tower utopian pipe dream, his criticism of the Dickensian conditions most were living in and why they did so was spot-on.
You do know why his contemporaries accused communists of wishing to abolish the family? Because the communists had the nerve to argue that child labor should be banned by law. Conservatives were of course appalled at this sort of radical government overreach.
I can make that argument and I did. I think you missed the point of the original article, but I'm not surprised. You probably didn't read it anyway.
The point of the original article was that homosexual activists unwittingly help the far Left, the "Progressives" in their destruction of the culture, by doing their part in the destruction of the traditional family and marriage, and also religion.
But nice try.
By the way, there is a plan, and Barrack Obama and his "fundamental transformation" are part of it. Would you deny that Marx was sinister and had a plan? He was sinister, and he and others who followed him do have a plan, and it's playing out right here in America.
Karl Marx was a family man who married his first love, and stayed married to her to the end of her life. They had seven children, three of whom survived to adulthood. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_von_Westphalen
Whatever his theoretical failings, I find it pretty hard to see his family life as sinister. Since it resembles so closely your own.
As homosexual activists seek to destroy religion and the traditional family in order to gain acceptance, "equal rights," and establishment of their lifestyle as normal, they play right into the hands of the radical Leftists, the "Progressives," or Cultural Marxists.
It must be exhausting being a right-winger. So much paranoia and hate. That's no way to live.
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Christians however will not support a fallen moral life style, but they will not disrespect you as a person
YES, destroy the importance of an intact mother-father family.......this is a big part of the Commies gameplan.
So a women can start a "family", no daddy needed or need-apply. Then, after the "family" is weakened to a point where it looks pathetic........a move to normalize 2 daddies or 2 mommies actually appears to be a step-up!!!!!!!!!
And the "family" unit is also beholden in many cases to whom, YES, beholden to Bigbrother/Fedgov.............BRILLIANT!!!!!!!
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