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Old 06-02-2015, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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The State.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96QTR9Q4VrY The Life of Julia - rely on the government for every need.
I didn't finish the video. After about 3 and half minutes, it became clear this had nothing to do with the topic, and frankly, I already got that after the first 30 seconds, but I tried to give it the benefit of the doubt. But a not very funny satirist can only keep my attention for so long.

We've already discussed this though. Technically, the state can benefit from it. The question now is: is that actually even happening. I'm not so sure it is, nor do I think we're very far in the process if it has.
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Old 06-02-2015, 05:19 PM
 
Location: CO
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You realize that study was completely debunked because the author made up the research, right?

An Author Of Paper About Changing Minds On Gay Marriage Seeks Retraction | ideastream
Classic.

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I am deeply embarrassed by this turn of events and apologize to the editors, reviewers, and readers of Science.
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Old 06-02-2015, 05:30 PM
 
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You realize that study was completely debunked because the author made up the research, right?

An Author Of Paper About Changing Minds On Gay Marriage Seeks Retraction | ideastream
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Classic.
Well, it certainly changed minds. You want it to be true as well?
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Old 06-02-2015, 08:52 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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You realize that study was completely debunked because the author made up the research, right?

An Author Of Paper About Changing Minds On Gay Marriage Seeks Retraction | ideastream
Yes.
I saw it in passing through the Science mag recent topic publications. Remembered a post by GHOSTRIDER AZ where they had said something about putting civil rights and equal protection to a vote.

Found the article (one doesn't have to pay for one) and did a quick post. Later, saw the retraction.

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Update, 10 a.m Eastern, 5/22/15: LaCour sent us (and others) this message:
I will supply a definitive response (including a timeline of events) on or before May 29, 2015. I appreciate your patience, as I gather evidence and relevant information, since I only became aware of the allegations about my work on the evening of May 19, 2015, when the not peer-reviewed comments in “Irregularities in LaCour (2014),” were posted publicly online.
I must note, however, that despite what many have printed, Science has not published a retraction of my article with Professor Green. I sent a statement to Science Editor McNutt this evening, providing information as to why I stand by the findings in LaCour & Green (2014). I’ve requested that if Science editor McNutt publishes Professor’s Green’s retraction request, she publish my statement with it.
It would have been a good find, (provide voters response in that situation) if the data gathered had been validated.
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Old 06-02-2015, 08:54 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Well, it certainly changed minds. You want it to be true as well?
It would have been nice and may have given us some insight. I was hasty and I apologize.
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Old 06-02-2015, 09:30 PM
 
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IVF, surrogacy... No sex required.
Sounds fun, like a dental appointment.
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Old 06-02-2015, 09:50 PM
 
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We've already discussed this though. Technically, the state can benefit from it. The question now is: is that actually even happening. I'm not so sure it is, nor do I think we're very far in the process if it has.
By diminishing the importance of the nuclear family, the incidence of children born out of wedlock (or if you prefer, "to single-parent households") goes up. Single parents are under especial pressure given the brutal labor market for all but specialized and skilled labor, which only benefits a small percentage of the population. It doesn't help that the economic elite overlaps with demographics that are less likely to have children out of wedlock. Given these conditions it logically follows that there is the creation of an underclass that is entirely reliant on government benefits. The cultural and political implications of this are not to be underestimated.
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