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When it is physically possible for two males or two females to mate and make an offspring, then there will be something to talk about, in this upside down world we live in.
There isn't anything natural or cultural about it, it's just sex. People making it more than that is how we have come to be living in and upside down world.
I can't have biological children. Should I be barred from forming a loving, legalized partnership with a spouse because it's "just sex"?
There was an article a while ago about two straight 90 something year olds getting married. Procreation? ROFL Try CONSUMMATION even when the "parts" fit!
It's only about 1.5%, and it isn't about equal rights. It never has been. That's a ruse.
Considering that currently people in same sex relations cannot get married, yet people in heterosexual relations can, it is.
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Destroying the institution of marriage does much harm to society. It is naïve to say otherwise.
You might indeed be correct.
However, as the discussion is about homosexual marriage and not destroying the institution of marriage (something homosexual marriage in no way does), it's an off topic point.
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Marx and Engels knew they had to abolish the family.
That's an interesting point. Again, irrelevant to the topic of gay marriage, but still interesting.
There was an article a while ago about two straight 90 something year olds getting married. Procreation? ROFL Try CONSUMMATION even when the "parts" fit!
Better ban these against nature marriages also!
Nobody is arguing here that the only reason for marriage is procreation. But, two members of the same sex "getting married" is not only a perversion, it makes a mockery of all marriage.
The author of this article is a Ph. D, has done the research, and his conclusions are valid:
"For the far left, gay marriage is the Trojan horse to secure the takedown of marriage it has long wanted, and countless everyday Americans are oblivious to the older, deeper forces at work. And even more delicious for the left, gay marriage is serving as a stunningly effective tool in attacking what the far left has always hated most: religion." (emphasis mine)
And those "deeper forces" are what are being facilitated by the supporters of "gay 'marriage.'"
When it is physically possible for two males or two females to mate and make an offspring, then there will be something to talk about, in this upside down world we live in.
There isn't anything natural or cultural about it, it's just sex. People making it more than that is how we have come to be living in and upside down world.
Creating a child is also just sex.
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It's only about 1.5%, and it isn't about equal rights. It never has been. That's a ruse.
Destroying the institution of marriage does much harm to society. It is naïve to say otherwise.
Marx and Engels knew they had to abolish the family. The homosexuals are being used as a tool by the Left to accomplish this.
While I'd be amazed if I got a decent answer, or even an answer at all, I'll go ahead and ask: how is the family unit being destroyed?
Also, why does only your idea of what a family looks like count as a family?
Nobody is arguing here that the only reason for marriage is procreation. But, two members of the same sex "getting married" is not only a perversion, it makes a mockery of all marriage.
The author of this article is a Ph. D, has done the research, and his conclusions are valid:
"For the far left, gay marriage is the Trojan horse to secure the takedown of marriage it has long wanted, and countless everyday Americans are oblivious to the older, deeper forces at work. And even more delicious for the left, gay marriage is serving as a stunningly effective tool in attacking what the far left has always hated most: religion." (emphasis mine)
And those "deeper forces" are what are being facilitated by the supporters of "gay 'marriage.'"
Based on the divorce statistics from us straight folks, I think we're doing a pretty good job ourselves in making a mockery of the sanctity of marriage. Not you or I so to speak, because I took the vows very seriously, and my wife and I will be married 15 years in September. ANNNNNNDDDD... we BOTH come from divorced families! My parents when I was really young (my mom remarried shortly after and has been with my step dad ever since). My dad is on his 3rd wife. My wife's mom never remarried, but her dad did. My wife and I are doing our part in trying learn from the mistakes that our parents made, and so far I think we're doing a pretty damn good job of it! Having said that, in no way shape or form is gay marriage ruining or making a mockery of our marriage!
Progressivism (Cultural Marxism) had it's origin in Germany, at The Frankfurt School. This is an article about how this philosophy came to America, through the University system, and how it ties in to Gay Marriage and the current debate surrounding it.
"Efforts to fundamentally transform family and marriage have been long at work, but never (until now) accepted and pushed by the mainstream. In the past, these efforts were spearheaded by the most dangerous leftists. For two centuries, leftist extremists made their arguments, from the 1800s to the 1960s, beginning with the Communist Manifesto, where Marx and Engels wrote of the “abolition of the family!” Efforts to revolutionize family and marriage continued from socialist utopians like Robert Owen, Charles Fourier, and Albert Brisbane, to cultural Marxists in the Frankfurt School such as Herbert Marcuse and Freudian-Marxist Wilhelm Reich, to 20th-century leftists and progressives ranging from the Bolsheviks -- Lenin, Trotsky, Alexandra Kollontai -- to Margaret Sanger, Betty Friedan, Kate Millett, and ‘60s radicals like Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, and Mark Rudd."
I sense a lot of nonsense here. How, exactly, is the family being transformed? If you're attracted to the opposite sex, you're still perfectly free to marry someone of the opposite sex and have children.
Marxist.. lol! Lots of good right wing nut job key words in there
Nobody is arguing here that the only reason for marriage is procreation. But, two members of the same sex "getting married" is not only a perversion, it makes a mockery of all marriage.
The author of this article is a Ph. D, has done the research, and his conclusions are valid:
"For the far left, gay marriage is the Trojan horse to secure the takedown of marriage it has long wanted, and countless everyday Americans are oblivious to the older, deeper forces at work. And even more delicious for the left, gay marriage is serving as a stunningly effective tool in attacking what the far left has always hated most: religion." (emphasis mine)
And those "deeper forces" are what are being facilitated by the supporters of "gay 'marriage.'"
A MOCKERY!!! For SHAME!
Lots of fluff, no nutter. If you're worried about marriage, focus on your own. My big gay marriage has no effect on your attempts to hold down a marriage
I can't have biological children. Should I be barred from forming a loving, legalized partnership with a spouse because it's "just sex"?
The reason you can't have biological children is because same sex marriage is legal in 37 states. It's destroying the American family!!
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