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Old 05-28-2015, 03:00 PM
 
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Common core increasingly appears to be on the rocks. If even a left leaning state like New Jersey is rejecting it, that gives us a pretty clear sense of what the future of this misguided approach to educating our nation's schoolchildren is.

A customized state-by-state approach would clearly be better.

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Chris Christie to pull New Jersey from Common Core

"It's now been five years since Common Core was adopted. And the truth is that it's simply not working," Christie said, according to a text of his speech provided by his office. It has brought only confusion and frustration to our parents. And has brought distance between our teachers and the communities where they work," he said at Burlington County College in Pemberton, New Jersey.

"Instead of solving problems in our classrooms, it is creating new ones. And when we aren't getting the job done for our children, we need to do something different," he said. Christie said he's forming a new state panel to consider new standards developed within New Jersey.
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Old 05-28-2015, 03:04 PM
 
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Common core increasingly appears to be on the rocks. If even a left leaning state like New Jersey is rejecting it, that gives us a pretty clear sense of what the future of this misguided approach to educating schoolchildren is.

Kudos to Christie & to the State of New Jersey! Common Core is such a mess!
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Old 05-28-2015, 03:25 PM
 
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Well his only alternative is to go back to NCLB which required 100% passing of state tests in 2014 or lose your Fed funding. That is the reason all states either jumped on CC or wrote their own standards that exactly match CC.

Is he ready for that ?

I see he's pushing for NJ to create their own standards. But it will have to be aligned to CC because the ACT/SAT tests are going to be aligned to CC.

There is nowhere to run here. CC is entrenched in our education system. How did we let that happen ?
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Old 05-28-2015, 03:26 PM
 
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...Now the little kiddies won't learn about George Washington tomahawking to death all those Manahawkin Indians...and how Jefferson was makin whoopie with the pickers out behind the barn..
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Old 05-28-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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Well his only alternative is to go back to NCLB which required 100% passing of state tests in 2014 or lose your Fed funding. That is the reason all states either jumped on CC or wrote their own standards that exactly match CC.

Is he ready for that ?

I see he's pushing for NJ to create their own standards. But it will have to be aligned to CC because the ACT/SAT tests are going to be aligned to CC.

There is nowhere to run here. CC is entrenched in our education system. How did we let that happen ?
No, it won't. There are a number of states that have never adopted Common Core, including Texas, with more opting out and the momentum working against it. Common Core is increasingly seen as a failure and is not the future of our education system at all, thank God.
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Old 05-28-2015, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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No, it won't. There are a number of states that have never adopted Common Core, including Texas, with more opting out and the momentum working against it. Common Core is increasingly seen as a failure and is not the future of our education system at all, thank God.
And the Texas standards map exactly to CC.

Go compare them if you don't believe me.
Our Math standards are exactly CC standards.

Here's an article (corrected to reflect the right TEKS) that compares the Texas TEKS with CC.
Some items even have the exact same wording.

http://robertkaplinsky.com/comparing...ate-standards/

With the ACT and SAT tests being aligned to CC states do not have any choice in the matter.

To provide further proof..David Coleman went from being the CC architect to running the College Board, creator of the SAT and AP tests.
Education at the federal level is no different than any other agency. A small group of people with revolving doors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Coleman_(education)
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Old 05-28-2015, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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States went down this path years ago taking in all the Federal dollars thrown to them.
Sadly it was a one way path. They cannot go back even if they wanted to now.

They got sucked in by dangling dollars from Uncle Sam and gave away their right to define their curriculums.
They will never get that right back now.
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Old 05-28-2015, 03:41 PM
 
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And the Texas standards map exactly to CC.

Go compare them if you don't believe me.
Our Math standards are exactly CC standards.

Here's an article (corrected to reflect the right TEKS) that compares the Texas TEKS with CC.
Some items even have the exact same wording.

Comparing the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills to the Common Core State Standards | Robert Kaplinsky - Glenrock Consulting, LLC

With the ACT and SAT tests being aligned to CC states do not have any choice in the matter.
What are being compared are the high level standards, which do not appear to be very controversial to me. It is when you dig down into the curriculum and the specific teaching procedures that the wheels come off of this thing.

Here is one of the high level standards taken from the article you linked above, that appears to be all but identical in both the Texas "TEKS" and Common Core:
“apply mathematics to problems arising in everyday life, society, and the workplace”
This does not appear objectionable to me, nor do the other high level standards that are shown in your link to be basically identical. However, there are many different ways to achieve that objective, and Texas has not adopted the Common Core curriculum, rather it has developed its own very different approach to education.
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Old 05-28-2015, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What are being compared are the high level standards, which do not appear to be very controversial to me. It is when you dig down into the curriculum and the specific teaching procedures that the wheels come off of this thing.

Here is one of the high level standards taken from the article you linked above, that appears to be all but identical in both the Texas "TEKS" and Common Core:
“apply mathematics to problems arising in everyday life, society, and the workplace”
This does not appear objectionable to me, nor do the other high level standards that are shown in your link to be basically identical. However, there are many different ways to achieve that objective, and Texas has not adopted the Common Core curriculum, rather it has developed its own very different approach to education.
The CC standards is the same for everyone. How it was implemented was left to the states. CC is a set of standards, not a curriculum.
If NJ is not happy then it's their own doing as CC is high level only. Each state had to define how to implement it in the classroom.
Christie is not being completely honest here.

Common Core State Standards: Preparing Students for College and Careers
In New Jersey, local school districts have the responsibility to develop curricula that will assist teachers in ensuring that students meet the Common Core State Standards. All decisions regarding textbooks, reading lists, and lesson plans continue to be made at the local level.
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Old 05-28-2015, 03:44 PM
 
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Poor kids !!! They were born stupid and have been loosing ground ever since.

But when they get out of collage they will be the Brightest and the Best !!!
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