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Old 05-29-2015, 11:35 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Corporations don't pay people more money when they have more money. They only pay workers more money when they absolutely have to. Jobs and wages are not charity. They are an expense, and considered a burden in most cases.
Absolutely. But increasing inequality has it's own side effects too, like increasing/closing loopholes on corporations.
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Old 05-29-2015, 11:38 PM
 
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Increased inequality is a natural consequence when large chunks of the population spend no time improving their own market value.

It could be reduced if they recognized the error of their ways, and spent time investing in themselves. If they don't, business is correct to assume they think they are not a prudent investment, and business is wise to respect and echo their self evaluation.
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Old 05-29-2015, 11:39 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Increased inequality is a natural consequence when large chunks of the population spend no time improving their own market value.
Is that what occurred during the late 19th/early 20th century as well? Factory workers didn't increase their market value?
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Old 05-29-2015, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Go ahead and increase corporate taxes..... I will even support you on it.... Just let me know how it works for you....
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Old 05-29-2015, 11:43 PM
 
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In the pre modern automated era, manual dexterity was a valuable thing. But in the 21st century, having 4 limbs as your sole asset is essentially, and properly, worthless.

Today's workforce needs to prepare for the 21st, not the 20th century,nor the 19th for that matter.
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Old 05-30-2015, 12:10 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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That's funny.. it's you who bragged about "4 business". Common sense tells you that customers obviously aren't banging your doors down. You talk like you think you know what you are talking about, yet I doubt with "4 businesses" you ever pulled high income.
Got me confused brah.
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Old 05-30-2015, 12:17 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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In the pre modern automated era, manual dexterity was a valuable thing. But in the 21st century, having 4 limbs as your sole asset is essentially, and properly, worthless.

Today's workforce needs to prepare for the 21st, not the 20th century,nor the 19th for that matter.
Let's not act like we don't have skilled manufacturing in this country and lets not act like we don't make and export a lot of goods and highly valued goods. Germany ranks even better per capita, but the US does pretty well (2nd in total exports globally).

From 2014:

United States Top 10 Exports
The following export product groups represent the highest dollar value in American global shipments during 2014. Also shown is the percentage share each export category represents in terms of US overall exports.
Machines, engines, pumps: US$219,566,232,000 (13.5% of total exports)
Electronic equipment: $171,966,197,000 (10.6%)
Oil: $157,213,437,000 (9.7%)
Vehicles: $135,797,903,000 (8.4%)
Aircraft, spacecraft: $124,831,567,000 (7.7%)
Medical, technical equipment: $84,879,104,000 (5.2%)
Gems, precious metals, coins: $65,522,480,000 (4.0%)
Plastics: $63,025,216,000 (3.9%)
Pharmaceuticals: $43,967,977,000 (2.7%)
Organic chemicals: $42,255,264,000 (2.6%)
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Old 05-30-2015, 12:25 AM
 
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We have done well, corp profits are rocking, as we have utilized automation superbly, creating far more profitable, sustainable corps in many sectors, manufacturing being just one of them.

Now if we wish to remain near the top of the list in terms of our economy, we'll have to continue adapting. I know we can, but I also know a large % will not adapt, and we need to ignore their self-induced plight. Eventually, they will modify their behavior and adapt to the 21st century economy, which as you correctly noted, will mean robots and AI often eliminate the jobs they presently have.
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Old 05-30-2015, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Purgatory
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I'd rather there be more equality and that corporations respected their workers more.
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Old 05-30-2015, 04:28 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Businesses, like individuals vote with their feet. How many times have you heard the phrase "get three quotes" when purchasing something? How many times have you purchased a car from a competing dealership because the price was lower? Did you question the salesperson about what their "need" is 1st? Maybe the more expensive guy had a higher "need" than the lower priced one?

What about other services? Maybe that roofer whos price was higher than the roofer you hired had a greater "need". Did you ask? Do you care?
Or, maybe that roofer whose price was higher does superior quality work using better materials than the others. Did you ask around? Do you care?


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Why are lefties so fixated on the tax rate that corporations pay as long as they bring jobs to the area?


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Why do righties worship corporations, no questions asked? Are you really so delusional you believe they do no wrong, ever, and should be given Carte Blanche to do as they please?
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