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Old 05-31-2015, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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You're a conservative Republican. Stop it.
Nope, I am a non-partisan independent who can be best described as a left winger, but I am not a leftist. I subscribe to some aspects of socialism and despise both parties. Bernie Sanders might just be the best candidate we got, but he has two liabilities: he has no military service and he is part of the problem by being part of the two major parties. Democracy exists to inhibit change. Stop it, by joining me in a true revolution in America and ending the stranglehold of the failed two party system which is dominated by leftists in both the DP and GOP.

 
Old 05-31-2015, 08:46 PM
 
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A better reminder would be for those victims to STOP CRIMINAL ACTS and respect the law and then earn respect for themselves. Almost all of these shootings involve someone(s) who are in the act of committing crimes/won't stop when ordered...if they are not guilty then stop and let the police search or whatever it takes to show no criminal act has been committed.

It seems that these big-time riots are trying to justify bad actions and cry "poor person(s) who was/were shot" when those persons are criminals. The rioter become criminals themselves when they commit such stupid, unconstitutional and against-the-law acts.
A non-violent act does not warrant being killed. Hell even a violent act without a weapon doesn't warrant a killing. Actually read about the cases. Many of them were simply citations about jay walking or a stop and frisk incident(which is illegal).
 
Old 05-31-2015, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Two issues here. First off, the caller who reported a man with a gun had no way to know that unless he showed it to them. Even the cop had to ask if he had one and he admitted it was in a holster. So, the caller had good reason to report it. Going to an ATM at night is scary enough, but when you see a guy with a gun there, it is really bad.

Second issue, the cop was very patient and respectful. The guy was very evasive and kept changing his stories (yes, I have a permit, not on me, didn't know I had to have one, no I don't have one) Then, he keeps telling the cop he didn't do anything instead of simply letting the cop do his investigation.

If that were any reasonable, intelligent person, they would tell the cop "I have a gun on me". He is going to find it anyway, and you are alerting him and also letting him know you are being upfront and not a threat.

No, that officer did it just the way he should have, and the guy did it the way they always do, and that is why they end up dead.

Don
 
Old 05-31-2015, 09:08 PM
 
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Probably true but MANY times the number of Black dudes killed out there are by other Black dudes so I guess to a hood rat, "Black lives DON'T matter" unless 1 was offed by a cop.
Blacks killed by other blacks are brought to trial and locked up. Cops that kill anyone of any race are not. Why can't you understand that?? And there are dozens of anti-violent organizations and initiatives in the black community. So obviously black people do care about black lives. Why don't you look them up, rather than assuming the black community is okay with the high black homicide rate?? What you really saying is that black people can't complain about police brutality because they/we don't live up to your standards.
 
Old 05-31-2015, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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No, that officer did it just the way he should have, and the guy did it the way they always do, and that is why they end up dead.
It's a shame it ended the way it did. I doubt he was a real threat but you never know, he was evasive about the gun's registration. The cop should face no charges.
 
Old 05-31-2015, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Blacks killed by other blacks are brought to trial and locked up. Cops that kill anyone of any race are not. Why can't you understand that?? And there are dozens of anti-violent organizations and initiatives in the black community. So obviously black people do care about black lives. Why don't you look them up, rather than assuming the black community is okay with the high black homicide rate?? What you really saying is that black people can't complain about police brutality because they/we don't live up to your standards.
Blacks killed by other blacks are not brought to trial, they are buried. The ones that did the killing? Usually NOT brought to trial. Far too many manage to intimidate entire neighborhoods into hiding and protecting them. "Snitches get stitches" is far too real in some communities. Worse, even without the threats and intimidation, too many in some neighborhoods embrace criminals far more than civilization. Heck, even when criminals are caught and convicted, our prison sentences are so lenient that they are tossed back into society to prey on more innocent people before their victims can even pick up the pieces. I really don't think "blacks care about black lives", at least not in some neighborhoods. Not until some idiot attacks a cop and ends up dead, then all of a sudden they care.

Far from all, or even most, blacks. It's not a racial issue, it is one of urban, inner city culture and those that embrace it.
 
Old 05-31-2015, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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If that were any reasonable, intelligent person, they would tell the cop "I have a gun on me". He is going to find it anyway, and you are alerting him and also letting him know you are being upfront and not a threat.

No, that officer did it just the way he should have, and the guy did it the way they always do, and that is why they end up dead.

Don
Seems pretty simple doesn't it? We were taught in concealed carry classes, if confronted by a cop (other than say a routine traffic stop), to say "I have a carry permit and am armed. How do you want to proceed". The only time I've had to say that was when asked to get out of my rig to check the taillights on my trailer. The cops response "I don't care about that, lets just check your lights". All good in 5 minutes. For the most part, when you don't act like a d-bag to cops, they rarely do so to you. Amazing, huh?
 
Old 06-01-2015, 07:59 AM
 
Location: The South
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"Entrance to your neighborhood?"

Trailer park, huh?

And please don't say gated community.
Hope your eyes are not hurting too bad.
 
Old 06-01-2015, 08:03 AM
 
Location: The South
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Sad situation, this sounds like someone that, in spite of being a felon, might have been turning his life around. Too bad he had a fatal attack of stupid. Glad the cop is OK.
He obviously flunked the yes sir, no sir test.
 
Old 06-01-2015, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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He obviously flunked the yes sir, no sir test.
He also failed the "don't pull a gun on a cop, especially after you're told not to" test. Stupid can be fatal.
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