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Old 06-05-2015, 05:41 AM
 
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EPA: Fracking's no big threat to water - Elana Schor - POLITICO

FTA:The study, more than four years in the making, said the EPA has found no signs of “widespread, systemic” drinking water pollution from hydraulic fracturing.


Time for the left to end it's anti-science crusade against fracking. Fracking is good. New York state should reverse its silly ban on fracking and let gas production soar.
And you can believe that they're REALLY looking!
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Old 06-05-2015, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The Op took out one phrases of the Draft Assessment Executive Summary Conclusions on Fracking and ran with it without reading the entire summary. It did indicate no “widespread, systemic” drinking water pollution but if you actually read the conclusions you would see that they are responsible for a certain degree of water pollution.

Why not at least post the entire executive summary rather than pulling out the part you like.
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Old 06-05-2015, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Obama delivers on campaign money "obligations".
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Old 06-05-2015, 06:20 AM
 
Location: NH
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The earth cannot sustain life if we don't take care of it, unfortunately the govt cares more about money than it does the earth. Science proves fracking is harmless? hmm, why are there far more websites not regulated by the govt that have found how damaging fracking can be? The way I see it, these big corporations are probably paying someone off, afterall everything revolves around money.
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Old 06-05-2015, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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People who are so dead set against fracking are certainly good for comic relief. In the first place, they have been fracking oil wells for over 30 years, and in fact, most oil wells were fracked over that time period. A friend of mine, who used to run the drilling rigs, said that he never sunk any well that was not fracked. Its been the standard practice for many years. So its been proven save to ground water over many years.

You have to remember that a high percentage of these wells are sunk a mile or more into the ground, through many layers of rock. Water wells are typically no more than a couple of hundred feet, so the depth of the well is far below the water table. So if you're that opposed to fracking, stand up for what you believe, turn of your natural gas, stop buying propane, don't buy anything made of plastic, and refuse to buy gasoline, because you wouldn't have any of those things, without fracking.

This "fracking" nonsense only started because the oil companies have found new ways to extract oil and are doing very nicely with it. So why the opposition to finding a rich new way to acquire such a necessary resource that we need every day? I can't figure it. In reality, what has made the oil companies more successful at finding oil is the advanced horizontal drilling techniques, and their ability to use seismic data to find the seams where the oil is in the rock. So before you start spouting out on the issue, learn something about it or you end up sounding like an idiot.

We west Texans have been living around fracked wells for a long time. We still drink the water, and we're all just fine. Years of use of this technology has proved that its perfectly safe.
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Old 06-05-2015, 06:31 AM
 
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Not only reverse they should obviously subsidize this technology.
They have and they`ve been doing it for 4 decades. $100 million dollars in research and billions more in tax breaks.
Top Stories - Development of Fracking Helped by Government Funding and Tax Breaks - AllGov - News
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Old 06-05-2015, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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People who are so dead set against fracking are certainly good for comic relief. In the first place, they have been fracking oil wells for over 30 years, and in fact, most oil wells were fracked over that time period. A friend of mine, who used to run the drilling rigs, said that he never sunk any well that was not fracked. Its been the standard practice for many years. So its been proven save to ground water over many years.

You have to remember that a high percentage of these wells are sunk a mile or more into the ground, through many layers of rock. Water wells are typically no more than a couple of hundred feet, so the depth of the well is far below the water table. So if you're that opposed to fracking, stand up for what you believe, turn of your natural gas, stop buying propane, don't buy anything made of plastic, and refuse to buy gasoline, because you wouldn't have any of those things, without fracking.

This "fracking" nonsense only started because the oil companies have found new ways to extract oil and are doing very nicely with it. So why the opposition to finding a rich new way to acquire such a necessary resource that we need every day? I can't figure it. In reality, what has made the oil companies more successful at finding oil is the advanced horizontal drilling techniques, and their ability to use seismic data to find the seams where the oil is in the rock. So before you start spouting out on the issue, learn something about it or you end up sounding like an idiot.

We west Texans have been living around fracked wells for a long time. We still drink the water, and we're all just fine. Years of use of this technology has proved that its perfectly safe.
You really need to read some of the scientific reports before you call the concerns over fracking nonsense. If you haven't noticed the industry has exploded in the last decade and your anecdotal evidence that it doesn't pollute is meaningless.

You want people to turn off their natural gas in a form of protest rather than regulate the industry.
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Old 06-05-2015, 07:26 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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http://ofmpub.epa.gov/eims/eimscomm....load_id=523076

This is the executive summary. Go to page 8. They certainly did not conclude fracking poses no threat to our water. Don't listen to political activists taking things out of context.

The full report can be found here: Assessment of the Potential Impacts of Hydraulic Fracturing for Oil and Gas on Drinking Water Resources (External Review Draft) | EPA's Study of Hydraulic Fracturing for Oil and Gas and Its Potential Impact on Drinking Water Resources | US EPA
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Old 06-05-2015, 08:13 AM
 
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I haven't kept up with recent fracking info, but in the past frackers were refusing to tell us what chemicals they were sending down deep into the cracks that could get into our aquifers and wells. Has the safety of those secret chemicals been revealed and researched now?
Since your basic premise has repeatedly been shown to be wrong you really need to stop beating this dead horse. What part of "does not get into aquifers and wells" do you not understand? That's what every study has shown You really need to stop gulping the anti-energy Koolaid being pumped out be agenda driven propagandists. Of course, I suspect you don't give a hoot about the facts because you are agenda driven yourself.
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Old 06-05-2015, 08:14 AM
 
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People who are so dead set against fracking are certainly good for comic relief. In the first place, they have been fracking oil wells for over 30 years, and in fact, most oil wells were fracked over that time period. A friend of mine, who used to run the drilling rigs, said that he never sunk any well that was not fracked. Its been the standard practice for many years. So its been proven save to ground water over many years.

You have to remember that a high percentage of these wells are sunk a mile or more into the ground, through many layers of rock. Water wells are typically no more than a couple of hundred feet, so the depth of the well is far below the water table. So if you're that opposed to fracking, stand up for what you believe, turn of your natural gas, stop buying propane, don't buy anything made of plastic, and refuse to buy gasoline, because you wouldn't have any of those things, without fracking.

This "fracking" nonsense only started because the oil companies have found new ways to extract oil and are doing very nicely with it. So why the opposition to finding a rich new way to acquire such a necessary resource that we need every day? I can't figure it. In reality, what has made the oil companies more successful at finding oil is the advanced horizontal drilling techniques, and their ability to use seismic data to find the seams where the oil is in the rock. So before you start spouting out on the issue, learn something about it or you end up sounding like an idiot.

We west Texans have been living around fracked wells for a long time. We still drink the water, and we're all just fine. Years of use of this technology has proved that its perfectly safe.
Actually fracking has been going on for more than 50 years. I fracked my first well 40 years ago.
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