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Old 06-05-2015, 09:30 AM
 
Location: NH
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The problem with this topic is there are two sides; those for fracking and those against it and neither side will ever change their mind. Both sides have factual information as well as science behind them but each side picks and chooses what information they want to accept based on their belief. Its unfortunately a pointless topic to discuss.
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Old 06-05-2015, 10:08 AM
 
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The problem with this topic is there are two sides; those for fracking and those against it and neither side will ever change their mind. Both sides have factual information as well as science behind them but each side picks and chooses what information they want to accept based on their belief. Its unfortunately a pointless topic to discuss.
There is no science on the side of the antis, only ideology.
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Old 06-05-2015, 10:35 AM
 
Location: NH
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There is no science on the side of the antis, only ideology.
Im not here to argue, or to point fingers as you did. You choose to believe one thing based on your findings, others choose to believe what they do based on their findings. In the end, those that are against anti fracking will lose because that's the way this world turns. Safe not does not matter...money however does.
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Old 06-05-2015, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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The last show I saw about "burning tap water" finally admitted that the water had been flammable long before any fracking took place in the area. In fact, in some places well water had such a high concentration of dissolved methane that it was flammable before any oil wells were drilled!
Of course, it is the dissolved methane (natural gas) that burns, not the water.
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Old 06-05-2015, 10:52 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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EPA: Fracking's no big threat to water - Elana Schor - POLITICO

FTA:The study, more than four years in the making, said the EPA has found no signs of “widespread, systemic†drinking water pollution from hydraulic fracturing.


Time for the left to end it's anti-science crusade against fracking. Fracking is good. New York state should reverse its silly ban on fracking and let gas production soar.
It's about time, but it does surprise me that the EPA came to this conclusion. This has been known for many years. It's good to have the EPA confirm it.
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Old 06-05-2015, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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EPA: Fracking's no big threat to water - Elana Schor - POLITICO

FTA:The study, more than four years in the making, said the EPA has found no signs of “widespread, systemic” drinking water pollution from hydraulic fracturing.


Time for the left to end it's anti-science crusade against fracking. Fracking is good. New York state should reverse its silly ban on fracking and let gas production soar.
When the industrial revolution had just started, there was no "widespread, systemic drinking water pollution" in populated areas of the world either. But a couple decades later, once factories dotted the rivers, the story was different. And unlike surface water, there is no way to clean up/restore underground aquifers.

Everyone knows you shouldn't take a dump in your well... and while we could theoretically live without oil, we can't live long without water.

Fracking = a very dumb and short-sighted idea.
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Old 06-05-2015, 10:55 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The sad thing is that if Bush were still in office they'd dismiss the findings out of hand and say he's lying for his oil buddies. lol.
Oh, please. Who do you think is doing the "fracking?" BP, Chesapeake, probably all the oil companies.
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Old 06-05-2015, 10:58 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I ain't buying it.
Well "I anin't buying" your global warming myth.

There has never been one shred of evidence that fracking is a risk to drinking water. Purely a "scare tactic" by anti-frackers, who for there own particular reasons want it stopped. They are against anything that has has to do with oil and gas stopped.
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Old 06-05-2015, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Well "I anin't buying" your global warming myth.

There has never been one shred of evidence that fracking is a risk to drinking water. Purely a "scare tactic" by anti-frackers, who for there own particular reasons want it stopped. They are against anything that has has to do with oil and gas stopped.
How can injecting thousands of gallons of toxic chemicals deep underground (especially here out West where almost all drinking water comes from wells) NOT be a threat to drinking water supplies?

That reminds me of a video I saw once of some lady in Bangladesh (I think) bathing in a river in a slum area. There were human feces floating in the river right past her; the interviewer asked the lady if that bothered her and she said no, she just scoops water to pour on her head in-between the turds floating by. See! Problem solved!
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Old 06-05-2015, 11:07 AM
 
Location: CO
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Well "I anin't buying" your global warming myth.

There has never been one shred of evidence that fracking is a risk to drinking water. Purely a "scare tactic" by anti-frackers, who for there own particular reasons want it stopped. They are against anything that has has to do with oil and gas stopped.
Bahahahaha......

You could maybe - I don't know... actually read the report?

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Of the potential mechanisms identified in this report,
we found specific instances where one or more of these mechanisms led to impacts on drinking
water resources, including contamination of drinking water wells. The cases occurred during both
routine activities and accidents and have resulted in impacts to surface or ground water. Spills of
hydraulic fracturing fluid and produced water in certain cases have reached drinking water
resources, both surface and ground water. Discharge of treated hydraulic fracturing wastewater has
increased contaminant concentrations in receiving surface waters. Below ground movement of
fluids, including gas, most likely via the production well, have contaminated drinking water
resources. In some cases, hydraulic fracturing fluids have also been directly injected into drinking
water resources, as defined in this assessment, to produce oil or gas that co-exists in those
formations.
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