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Plumbers, truckers and farmers tend to vote towards Republican because they're culturally conservative and are generally fond of the "tough guy" image that the Republican Party tends to capitalize, whereas teachers, scientists, IT professionals and Bar owners vote for Democrats because they're culturally liberal and they're all that "hipster" "new age" type of fellows in which the Democratic party tends to capitalize.
The text in my first Sociology class mentioned that more educated people tend to be liberal. As a young and stupid 18-year-old libertarian, I refused to believe that. But as the years went by, it started to make sense.
I work in a Petroleum refinery and this has caused me too see conservatives for who they are.
It was worse then I ever imagined. Talking to real conservatives about the economy and other Americans really drove home the point to me, that conservatives are exclusionary, don't see millions of their fellow citizens as real Americans.
conservatives truly hate those fellow citizens and see them as takers, thieves, lazy, dumb, etc, whom they desperately don't want to receive help from the government.
The list is very interesting though. I can't really see a pattern in terms of which occupations lean one way or another and why they lean in that direction at least with campaign donations.
An organization called "Verdant labs" recently published a poll in which it analyses which field of work leads democrat or republican. The results in my view are more surprising and nuanced than I initially thought. Here's the link:
(And please analyse the results before posting on this thread)
When I look at the statistics a lot of things doesn't really makes sense to me. I'm no American myself, but you guys might provide some answers to my questions:
Why do bookkeepers, for example, leans towards Republicans while book sellers and book publishers are overwhelmingly democrat?
Why carpenters are more democrat whereas plumbers and lumberjacks are Republican?
Why Police officers tend to lean a little bit towards Democrats?! (That result was really surprising to me)
Some industries like oil, farming and trucking are extremely subsidized by the Federal government, whereas most Democratic professions like taxi drivers, yoga instructor, IT professional, bartender are very DIY entrepreneurial and pay way more taxes than get. Why's that?
I think that in the United States, most people vote more based on cultural identification as opposed to the more serious economic and social issues that really have an impact on them in their lives.
Plumbers, truckers and farmers tend to vote towards Republican because they're culturally conservative and are generally fond of the "tough guy" image that the Republican Party tends to capitalize, whereas teachers, scientists, IT professionals and Bar owners vote for Democrats because they're culturally liberal and they're all that "hipster" "new age" type of fellows in which the Democratic party tends to capitalize.
It's also very curious that in other countries, such as Scandinavian countries for example, oil workers, fishermen, hunters and farmers and blue-collar workers overall are overwhelmingly socialist and vote primarily on Socialist parties, whereas the most service-based and professional career people vote more on classical liberal (libertarian in US) or conservative parties.
What do you guys think of this, and can you answer my questions, please?
I don't think subsidies have anything to do with it.
I think biology plays an important part, though. We are a social species, and in every other social species, leaders and followers are equally important. So are a few members who are extremely intelligent and extremely un-intelligent, while most of the group lies between the extremes. A social species always need them all, and many other things as well- boldness and reserve, aggression and passivity, curiosity and lack of it. The list is long.
Who we are genetically has a lot to do with what our personality is, what our beliefs are, how adaptable we are, and a lot of similar stuff. The lack of any strong genetic trait weakens the entire group.
Very basically humanity needs individuals who are liberal and who are conservative, in many areas that lie inside and outside politics. Our genetics also factor into who we choose as mates, so tendencies of conservatism and liberalism tend to run in families.
The math, science, and technology people are overwhelmingly Democrat. We know that. The lack of STEM people in the Republican party could also explain why they are so anti-science.
Most labor-intensive jobs lean Republicans. No surprise there either. These jobs require no college degrees so they attract a lot of Republicans; who in general, tend to be less educated than Democrats. This include construction jobs. These jobs also tend to be more prevalent in Red States.
Many surgeons are Republicans. Again no surprise. They tend to be the highest paid of the doctors and their economic interest align with the GOP. I think if you poke deeper, these are more likely to be Libertarians than true Republicans. Like Rand Paul, himself was a surgeon.
The bookworm/academic jobs (teachers, writers, librarians, researchers, publishing) lean Democrat... of course they do. These jobs tend to be Democratic.
The big surprise for me... Religion... lean Democratic. But I guess it makes sense after you realize that the Bible thumpers are but a small sect of these group. Religion's spirituality actually align quite well with the Democratic ideal.
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Originally Posted by sandsthetime
The text in my first Sociology class mentioned that more educated people tend to be liberal. As a young and stupid 18-year-old libertarian, I refused to believe that. But as the years went by, it started to make sense.
These answers are spot on. Except that education and political party is more of a bell curve. The least educated and the most educated are usually Democrats. High school and "some college" are more Republicans.
What I notice on these charts is that *in general* the more people work with others, the more Democratic they are. And almost all of the "helping professions" are except high income specialist MDs.
I suspect most were drawn to work with/helping others due to their Democratic leanings. And i suspect another subset became more Democratic after working with certain populations such as bartenders working with drunks who never get help for their problems and hear about the injustices in the world from their patrons.
I've always though anyone running for public office should be mandated to shadow a state agency such as CPS or DMH for at least a month. Otherwise, they really have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA how the poor live. And other people's anecdotes about "Welfare Queens" they've probably never even met don't help the public and political perception.
Remember Romney telling kids to "borrow 20k" from their parents?
And fun fact: the origin AL "Welfare Queen in Chicago" was a myth made up by Reagan in a speech. He was most definitely one of the best presidential speakers and the public ate it up.
I'd like to think we've learned since then but.....
I work in a Petroleum refinery and this has caused me too see conservatives for who they are.
It was worse then I ever imagined. Talking to real conservatives about the economy and other Americans really drove home the point to me, that conservatives are exclusionary, don't see millions of their fellow citizens as real Americans.
conservatives truly hate those fellow citizens and see them as takers, thieves, lazy, dumb, etc, whom they desperately don't want to receive help from the government.
The list is very interesting though. I can't really see a pattern in terms of which occupations lean one way or another and why they lean in that direction at least with campaign donations.
You are right. Real conservatives are vermin in the body politic. They have no interest in building a cooperative, mutually prosperous, free and open society.
So, are architects, most engineers, police officers, firemen, physicians, scientists, researchers, factory workers and IT professionals not worthy?
And how worthy are homemakers, horse breeders, pawnbrokers, loan officers and bookkeepers according to you?
Libs- the masters of data manipulation and misquotes-
1. Most police officers lean conservative- the probation officers make it close to 50/50
2. Most physicians are conservative- only the worthless ones like pediatricians and family practice lean left. Those that actually DO SOMETHING are conservative.
3. The useful engineers lean conservative- only the software engineers tilt it left. Is a "software engineer" really an engineer?
4. fireman? Essentially paid welfare- what would you expect?
I think the key here is "occupations"- most of the bums and permanently unemployed are democrats, while those who actually work and produce are not.
You are right. Real conservatives are vermin in the body politic. They have no interest in building a cooperative, mutually prosperous, free and open society.
Vermin is harsh.
But the ideas/beliefs undergirding so much of conservative ideology are anti-democratic, exclusionary, fear based, racist, sexist, anti-science, anti-reality, uses history as a tool of propaganda, etc.
You are right. Real conservatives are vermin in the body politic. They have no interest in building a cooperative, mutually prosperous, free and open society.
Conservatives are Old Testament.
They are Allah's favorites.
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