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Hey states, here's some Medicaid money. Free Medicaid money, for the taking. Why won't you take our Medicaid money? Who wouldn't accept our free Medicaid money. Free, free, free. No cost to yooou.
Hey states, your healthcare costs have been rapidly rising over the last decade and eating up your budgets....
"Several states that chose to expand Medicaid eligibility under ObamaCare now are facing deadline pressure to pay for it, the result of more signups than anticipated -- and, a looming reduction in how much of the bill the federal government will cover."
"It's really not a free proposition for us to expand coverage here," Renner told the newspaper. "We're going to have to give up things that are very important, like education."
You have made numerous references to being on Social Security at 65, nothing about being on SSDI. But as disingenuous as your story is becoming, I'll bite...are you on SSDI? If so, what state do you live in? Tell me that and I will tell you within 10 minutes exactly what your are eligible for and how to apply for it.
If you disagree BACK IT UP. Give a link from this year.
The CBO report says 7 million losing employer based policies 4 million private policies due to ACA...
And the CBO again says 30 million will NEVER get insurance..
if you want to claim ACA is a success because we've increased medicaid than that makes one a fool since we needed to increase those who PAID to cut the cost
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Oh wait...thats too much like dealing with REALITY.
Actually it fell because over 1 million less individuals will benefit from the plan than previously anticiapted.
Start reading actual reports instead of talking points, you wont be wrong so often
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Originally Posted by greywar
Shrug. I've made my statement clear on this one. I even agreed I was incorrect-more incorrect then you were specifically. And this is your argument back?
So when I said I was more wrong then to you it was BS? Uhmmmm..OK sure.
Which was already proven a lie because it does NOT have 89% satisfaction rate despite your claims.
Oh look! Lets blame a subsection of Americans! The Millennials! Thats it!
Or we could just be more honest and say-hey we need to get people medical coverage, lets deal with this as its a not unreasonable request-given that almost every other developed country in the freaking world manages it. Even Mexico has universal healthcare!
Then Republicans should have worked to create a comprehensive plan. They instead let Democrats use their private exchange plan and create minimum standards. Instead of working on a solution they choose to grandstand and provide lip service.
Oh I'm sure the conservatives rube will say, "it's a dem mess they created."
That's simply not true. Republicans went out there way to make healthcare fail, healthcare that is based off republican ideas. Republicans had no problem passing Bush's Part D prescription medicare overhaul that requires more revenue and subsidies in order to work, but state based healthcare exchanges...... That's crossing the line.....
The only way "what the Republicans should have done" is a valid argument is if ACA is a failure.
You have made numerous references to being on Social Security at 65, nothing about being on SSDI. But as disingenuous as your story is becoming, I'll bite...are you on SSDI? If so, what state do you live in? Tell me that and I will tell you within 10 minutes exactly what your are eligible for and how to apply for it.
There again, something you don't know. SSDI becomes soc sec at 66, or 65 depending on things.
Actually I pay for mine. I'm pretty happy seeing more Americans have medical care, and less Americans dying.
And hey its not free, know that. I'm in the top quintile for income, I help pay for it.
I think thats more your response them mine. projecting much?
If insuring more people and less americans dying makes you happy, then you should be outraged that 11 million losing private policies, again, per the CBO
Did you find a source for these numbers, or are you still misreading the CBO report?
So far, premiums are going up more slowly than they were pre-ACA, so overall the bill is functioning effectively on cost containment.
Before Obamacare my premiums never increased 93% like they did after it.
Same exact coverage I've had for years.
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