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Old 06-09-2015, 03:57 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Sharia is the Islamic legal system. Interpretation differs amongst and within sects, no different than Christianity and Judiaism.
Oh, please! You didn't even watch these videos, did you?

Sharia is Jihad. Jihad is Sharia.

Why don't you listen to the videos, then respond?

[quote=middle-aged mom;39949767] Most majority Muslim countries are secular.[/quot]
What?!!!! Surely, you are kidding!

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For example, homosexuality is punishable by death in only three Muslim majority countries, Saudi ( long time US allies), Iran and Somalia. That's three countries too many in my book, but no one asked me.
You couldn't be more wrong. All Muslim countries are bound by the Sharia. Listen to the video.

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Like with Christians and Jews, some Muslims have been taught extreme interpretations/ ideology.
There is nothing "extreme" about Christianity or Judaism. But ALL Muslims are taught to hate Jews, that Jews are apes, pigs, and worse. LISTEN TO THE VIDEO! This woman was raised a Muslim. She lived in a Muslim country for 30 years. She knows what Islam teaches about Jews.

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What better way to build an international extreme ideology than to appeal to the uneducated and / or insane masses. Get them to do your bidding and rationalize it with religion.

The majority of the world's Muslims are not middle eastern.
Really? Do they reject the Qur'an?

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The Quran and hadiths ( opinions) contain contradictory information, no different than the bibles and Torah.
All are subject to interpretation.
The uneducated (those who have not studied the bible) only think the bible contains contradictions. It does not.

Who has taught you these ideas you have about Islam?
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Old 06-09-2015, 04:02 PM
 
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Idk, I kind of figured conservative evangelical Christians would like Sharia Law. I mean it's no homosexuals, no abortions, women in burkas so men aren't distracted by women's bodies. Sounds a lot like what the right is trying to do in America.
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Old 06-09-2015, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Jesus took our sins and washed them clean in His blood and at that moment it was finished. We no longer had to put adulterers to death, or heretics, etc., because breaking the Law was covered in Christ's Sacrificial blood.

The Church eventually stopped laws of executing people for things that were impossible not to do. Murdering someone is always a crime that has to be dealt with, because even Jesus condemned that, though He forgives if one asks, even the murderer.

Christian is simply being Christ like. No more no less. Nobody needs to kill anybody in order to go to heaven.

Can the same be said about radical Islam? If so, then Fine, you can argue radical Christians are like radical Muslims. If not, stop the silly argument.
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Old 06-09-2015, 04:32 PM
 
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You couldn't be more wrong. All Muslim countries are bound by the Sharia. Listen to the video.
Malaysia is a 64% Muslim country that I have been too.

Only the Muslims in the country are bound by Sharia law.

Law of Malaysia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

know...the world is more complex then the youtube nonsense.
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Old 06-09-2015, 05:53 PM
 
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Malaysia is a 64% Muslim country that I have been too.

Only the Muslims in the country are bound by Sharia law.

Law of Malaysia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

know...the world is more complex then the youtube nonsense.
Youtube nonsense? That is only a medium. A piece of software. Nonie Darwish has lived under Sharia in an Islamic country. She was raised a Muslim. She knows of what she speaks.

In any country which is a Muslim country, all are bound by Sharia. Non-Muslims must pay a tax, and they do not have rights, but they are still bound by Sharia.
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Old 06-09-2015, 05:59 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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TINFOIL ALERT. Sir your foil has slipped. Please put it back in place and you will feel better.
This is the reason we are in danger. People failing to recognize the threat, and passing it off as "tinfoil hat" nonsense.

We were warned about the 9/11 attacks. The Clinton administration didn't take the threat seriously. Bush learned of the threat two or three months into his presidency. By then, the plans had been laid. But we were not prepared.
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Old 06-09-2015, 06:16 PM
 
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Idk, I kind of figured conservative evangelical Christians would like Sharia Law. I mean it's no homosexuals, no abortions, women in burkas so men aren't distracted by women's bodies. Sounds a lot like what the right is trying to do in America.

Utterly ridiculous comment!
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Old 06-09-2015, 06:27 PM
 
Location: USA
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Oh Yeah! Secular Muslim countries. Whoopee! " For example homosexuality is only punishable by death in three" That is utter BS. Secular forms of government in the Muslim world doesn't fair much better than non for homosexuality. Besides your list is to short and false.

Homosexuality is illegal in Brunei and can be punished with up to death. The population is 51.9% Muslim which makes it a Muslim majority country.

Mauritania: Muslim men engaging in homosexual sex can be stoned to death, according to a 1984 law. Women face prison. The population is 99.2 Muslim. What the hell is this three countries you are talking about?
What is the Muslim population of Nigeria? About 50%

So what is the punishment in Pakistan, Iraqi, Afghanistan, Syria, Morocco, Libya, Egypt, Algeria, and Sudan?

100 lashes or stoned in Pakistan to death?

What about the Gaza Strip? So they don't pull off peoples faces for being gay in the gaza strip?

All of these Muslim majority countries have outlawed homosexuality.

Many you just get beaten and/or jailed and fine. But hey, at least they are secular.

Algeria,
act is punishable with imprisonment of between 2 months and two years, and with a fine of 500 to 2000

Comoros
Both male and female sexual acts considered to be against nature are illegal in Comoros. Such acts are punished with up to five years imprisonment and a fine of 50,000 to 1,000,000 francs

Tunisia
Article 230 of the Penal Code of 1913 (largely modified in 1964) decrees imprisonment of up to three years for private acts of sodomy between consenting adults

Bangladesh
Same-sex sexual activity, whether in public or private, is illegal and punishable with fines and up to life imprisonment

Iran

Iraq

Kuwait

homosexuals are prosecuted under the "debauchery" law.
Article 193 of the Penal Code punishes debauchery with up to six years imprisonment.
Article 198 prohibits "imitating the appearance of a member of the opposite sex" with fines and or imprisonment.

Do I really have to go through the rest of the majority Muslim countries? There is about 20 more and most don't play nice with gays.





And the sad thing is they are only getting worse as they become more Pius in their religious conviction as we become less. Even the wonderful Secular Turkey that apologists hold dear is reverting back into the dark days of a non secular society. Same as Indonesia with its Islamic re-enforced policies of female genital mutilation. How enlightened they are?

Prevalence of female genital mutilation by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 06-09-2015, 06:30 PM
 
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LOL. I'd worry about this country becoming a communist country first. Half of this country is already communists, I am sorry, liberal.
You don't know what communism is. Most people who make silly claims like this have generally no idea wtf they're talking about. But it sounds good and they saw it on Fox, so why not.
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Old 06-09-2015, 06:33 PM
 
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It isn't all muslims, but it's always a muslim.

The world would be a more peaceful place without islam.
Except when it's a white kid shooting up a school or mall or US backed drones blasting villages from from the sky or Mexican cartels chopping off heads or black gangs shooting up inner city corners in drive-bys or North Korean regime starving their own people or African militias using child soldiers or on and on...

The world would be a more peaceful place without human beings, but that's not going to happen. But the history of the world is basically a history of violence.

Islam is backwards for the most part, but it's not going anywhere--and most of the people born into it can be devout or not really care and most are just trying to survive in the world, but their cultural sphere of the world isn't going anywhere. The Middle East basically needs a secular awakening to combat the Islamist re-awakening.
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