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Old 06-14-2015, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Florida
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You are picking the polls that agree with you and skipping over the ones that disagree including the OP, one poll does not discredit the other, especially when some of these polls are state polls while others are National, and when someone of them specifically poll registered voters and others dont, and when one poll specifically says they didnt poll people who had previously been apart of the poll.

You can only claim support has declined when a person who was previously for it, has changed their mind and is now against it.

By your own logic, this poll(Vandy) didnt follow its own definition of decline.
It is not complicated. Before more than half of Americans supported it, and now less than half support it.

The 2016 presidental candidates need to take this into account before going all in with LGBT crowd like Hillary did.

 
Old 06-14-2015, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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It is not complicated. Before more than half of Americans supported it, and now less than half support it.

The 2016 presidental candidates need to take this into account before going all in with LGBT crowd like Hillary did.
There are polls that completely disagree with you, including Gallup, Quinnipiac(sp?), WSJ, CNN/ORC, and many others. There seem to be more who say it is growing than say it is shrinking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public...s#cite_note-14

You are letting your personal opinion of the matter cloud your better judgement. Im not even claiming that it is falling or growing, only that the polling is clearly not as one sided as you have claimed. Heck, the OP of this article even includes a poll and you completely ignored that because it disagrees with your own personal philosophy.
 
Old 06-14-2015, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Gays do not want to settle for a civil union. They don't want to accept the word of God that Homosexuality is wrong,but they want to change what GOD says is the definition of marriage. This is dangerous territory for America if the majority supports gay marriage.
They seek acceptance for their deviance. It would make them feel less tormented or so they think. It will never be "marriage" and always "gay marriage", two entirely different things.

It is about an agenda: The homosexual propaganda campaign in America's media

Everyone that knows anything about polls and studies know that they say what the agency/organization or individual want them to say. Seriously, having someone ask you on the street if you approve of gay marriage and you saying no could get your business shutdown or you could suffer an act of violence against yourself or others so many would be too fearful of not saying that they support it. As the news shows, the LGBT community can be very aggressive to people of faith or to anyone that refuses to give them moral support.

Communities do repel against this aggression: Rebellion: Communities draw line on ‘gay’ rights

Sorry, we can't make manifestations associated with mental health issues "normal" despite what laws we change.
 
Old 06-14-2015, 04:40 PM
 
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Actually sopport for SSM is falling

Gay-Marriage Support Falling | National Review Online

But the poll was also remarkable for showing a rather dramatic drop in support for gay marriage in one year, after years of uninterrupted rises. Do you favor “allowing gays and lesbians to marry legally” is an imperfect question, but it does allow tracking across time. Overall support for gay marriage dropped from 54 percent to 49 percent.

Read more at: Gay-Marriage Support Falling | National Review Online
These couples are fining out "Marriage is Hard work", not a life style of fantasy.
 
Old 06-14-2015, 04:50 PM
 
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Actually sopport for SSM is falling

Gay-Marriage Support Falling | National Review Online

But the poll was also remarkable for showing a rather dramatic drop in support for gay marriage in one year, after years of uninterrupted rises. Do you favor “allowing gays and lesbians to marry legally” is an imperfect question, but it does allow tracking across time. Overall support for gay marriage dropped from 54 percent to 49 percent.

Read more at: Gay-Marriage Support Falling | National Review Online
William F. Buckley is spinning in his grave.
 
Old 06-14-2015, 05:01 PM
 
Location: California
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The difference is: I don't complain about what other people do.

See the difference?
I didn't complain either so whats your point?
 
Old 06-14-2015, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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It is not complicated. Before more than half of Americans supported it, and now less than half support it.

The 2016 presidental candidates need to take this into account before going all in with LGBT crowd like Hillary did.
You really need to get up to date...

This was published June 8th. Changing Attitudes on Gay Marriage | Pew Research Center

Today, a majority of Americans (57%) support same-sex marriage, compared with 39% who oppose it....
 
Old 06-14-2015, 05:44 PM
 
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They seek acceptance for their deviance. It would make them feel less tormented or so they think. It will never be "marriage" and always "gay marriage", two entirely different things.
Funny thing is, wherever gay marriage has become the law, it's called marriage within months and nobody cares.

You mean people looked into how they could intelligently remove the stigma people insisted on pinning on them? Fiendish!

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Everyone that knows anything about polls and studies know that they say what the agency/organization or individual want them to say.
I remember the last time the polls had to be unskewed. How did that work out for y'all?

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Communities do repel against this aggression: Rebellion: Communities draw line on ‘gay’ rights
I guess WND had to branch out, now that Birtherism doesn't sell any more. Hey, look, there's even a book! What are the chances?

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Sorry, we can't make manifestations associated with mental health issues "normal" despite what laws we change.
Norms have changed. And as the name implies, "normal" has to do with norms. Too bad, but you'll have to find some other group to feel superior to.
 
Old 06-14-2015, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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They don't because it don't really travel to other states, and don't provide the same rights as a marriage does under the law. That is the problem. It is separate but equal 2015.
You are misunderstanding my point. There is no such thing in the US as a separate marriage category for gay people. There is only marriage. And in the US, *all* marriages are already civil unions.

edited to add - Ironically, people who urge "civil unions" for gays as opposed to real "marriage" are urging that gay people should be married. Because it is the *same damn* thing.

Last edited by jacqueg; 06-14-2015 at 06:00 PM..
 
Old 06-14-2015, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Gays do not want to settle for a civil union. They don't want to accept the word of God that Homosexuality is wrong,but they want to change what GOD says is the definition of marriage. This is dangerous territory for America if the majority supports gay marriage.
How, exactly, are gays supposed to "settle" for civil unions when they were banned for gays in most states?

I'm pretty sure that the bible wasn't written in English, so the word "marriage" did not appear in the original. Maybe you should use the original Hebrew word for your union.
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