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Old 06-09-2015, 11:33 AM
 
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That's irrelevant to the discussion. Clinton was not lying to a stupid man's ear at the behest of the defense industry. Rummy and Cheney are nothing but both common and war criminals.

Agreed. Who were we supposed to get our info from. Bush administration! We all were lied to.
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Old 06-09-2015, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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O has been in charge for over six years now.
W started it, but O has bungled it even worse.
Yea, right. Like it's possible to bungle it even worse. Get real.
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Old 06-09-2015, 12:37 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Yea, right. Like it's possible to bungle it even worse. Get real.
It's not my fault that you haven't been following the news the last year or two; it has worsened, not improved.
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Old 06-09-2015, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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It's not my fault that you haven't been following the news the last year or two; it has worsened, not improved.
Yea, it might be because we helped create ISIS and the billions the neocons spent training an Iraqi army was all for naught. But you blame Obama for Bush's war, the same one you cheered for.

Still cheering?
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Old 06-09-2015, 01:57 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Yea, it might be because we helped create ISIS and the billions the neocons spent training an Iraqi army was all for naught. But you blame Obama for Bush's war, the same one you cheered for.

Still cheering?
Never cheered the war and not a Bush fan.
Your guy has had six years to fix it, but instead has just worsened it; though it's hardly surprising O-cult members refuse to acknowledge reality when it comes to their messiah.
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Old 06-09-2015, 02:25 PM
 
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Never cheered the war and not a Bush fan.
Your guy has had six years to fix it, but instead has just worsened it; though it's hardly surprising O-cult members refuse to acknowledge reality when it comes to their messiah.
You people that use this messiah crap are just a bunch of deflectors and are fools.

Were it McCAIN we would be mired in Iraq and Iran and have about 200,000 of USA troops on the ground.FOREVER
Which is better. Those people you guys always denigrate killing each other or our troops dying over there for NOTHING?

Of course we would be having a war time economy. Is that what you fools want?
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Old 06-09-2015, 02:31 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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You people that use this messiah crap are just a bunch of deflectors and are fools.
Please.
Stop treating him like a blameless messiah, and those of us who aren't part of the cult following will stop calling you out on it.
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Old 06-09-2015, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I don't really blame Dubya. The American people put him in (well maybe the SC did). He clearly was in way over his head as POTUS. Rummy, Condi, and Cheney played him like a violin. I also blame Powell, because he was smarter than Bush and knew what was going on but chose to remain silent. Think of all the lives that would have been spared had he simply got up and told the truth about things. Congress would not have approved the war had Powell told the real story.
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Old 06-09-2015, 02:35 PM
 
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I don't really blame Dubya. The American people put him in (well maybe the SC did). He clearly was in way over his head as POTUS. Rummy, Condi, and Cheney played him like a violin. I also blame Powell, because he was smarter than Bush and knew what was going on but chose to remain silent. Think of all the lives that would have been spared had he simply got up and told the truth about things. Congress would not have approved the war had Powell told the real story.
If that's true, and it might be, then it was a question of courage.
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Old 06-09-2015, 02:39 PM
 
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Please.
Stop treating him like a blameless messiah, and those of us who aren't part of the cult following will stop calling you out on it.

I don't know anyone that thinks of him in that way except repub's. The biggest bunch of sore ass losers i ever heard of.
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