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Old 06-16-2015, 12:49 AM
 
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SAT, if it wasn't Putlin, it would be another despot. The Russians admire so called tough leaders...... they always have. You could probably find some elderly Russians sighing for Stalin. "He wasn't all bad........"...
I never considered Stalin as a despot. We studied about him at school as another governor of the country and not as a despot. It was through him we won the Second World War. The country began developing.
My grandmother told me that when Stalin died, they all went to the funeral and millions cried.
Yes, there were people which displeased with him, but basically they were perpetrators who were not allowed stealing.

 
Old 06-16-2015, 12:58 AM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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Wasn't Putin a protégé of Adolph Hitler.
Huh?? He was born in 1952....

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Hopefully Russian citizens know better. Putin is your biggest impediment to security, prosperity, and freedom.
I think that Putin is still respected, if not revered by most Russians. There are many reasons why they do so.
 
Old 06-16-2015, 01:15 AM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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I never considered Stalin as a despot. We studied about him at school as another governor of the country and not as a despot. It was through him we won the Second World War. The country began developing.
My grandmother told me that when Stalin died, they all went to the funeral and millions cried.
Yes, there were people which displeased with him, but basically they were perpetrators who were not allowed stealing.
Yes, it was under Stalin that the Soviet people suffered the hardly bearable strains of collectivization and industrialization, but he also was a great leader of the humongous Soviet Union - at that time it was the world's strongest superpower! He was a ruler who achieved an almost unprecedented economic miracle of modern times, having made a great industrial and military power out of a dilapidated country.
How could they not be sad when he died?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/05/op...pagewanted=all

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Old 06-16-2015, 01:24 AM
 
Location: England
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My grandmother told me that when Stalin died, they all went to the funeral and millions cried.
Yes, there were people which displeased with him, but basically they were perpetrators who were not allowed stealing.
Wow..........



Stalin's Purges – Russiapedia Of Russian origin
 
Old 06-18-2015, 12:36 AM
 
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Look at this situation at the other side:
It was Stalin who defeated Hitler. If not Stalin you think you could win the war? While the USA couldn't handle with Japan, russians troops entered in Berlin.

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Old 06-18-2015, 12:48 AM
 
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I think that the USA invented the myth about Stalin - tyrant because during the Cold War they didn't want to admit that at victory over the worst evil ever they indebted to the russian leader and deathless feat of arms of russian nation.
 
Old 06-18-2015, 03:59 AM
 
Location: England
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Look at this situation at the other side:
It was Stalin who defeated Hitler. If not Stalin you think you could win the war? While the USA couldn't handle with Japan, russians troops entered in Berlin.
The Russian people bravely fought the nazi's. Millions died during this magnificent effort. But Stalin was a murderous psychopath.

Stalin Becoming Recognized As 'Most Criminal Monster Of All'
 
Old 06-18-2015, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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Look at this situation at the other side:
It was Stalin who defeated Hitler. If not Stalin you think you could win the war? While the USA couldn't handle with Japan, russians troops entered in Berlin.
Stalin and the Russian army had something to do with the defeat of Hitler at Stalingrad, but it was also Russia's brutal winter that had a lot to do with it. The German army suffered from starvation and lack of critical supplies that could not be delivered.

When the Russian army entered Berlin, many German citizens escaped because they knew that the Red Army was not going to be very kind to Germans.

Overall, Stalin was nothing more than brutal dictator.

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