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This is to my conservative friends in here. Why do so many of you blame the poor for being poor? Surely it can't all be due to bad deoision making, laziness and all? Do you not think that some people are born disadvantaged and cannot escape poverty. Do you hate the poor because it makes you feel better about yourselves?
How can we tackle poverty and ensure that everyone is given a chance in life?
why do libs think conservatives blame the poor for being poor?
there is obviously no room for discussion with such a broad accusation intended as a lesson rather than discussion or argument. Tell us why tou are guilty!
A distraction from dem policies creating an ever expanding pool of poor. Why do the dems/ D-party wing, want to keep people dependant and poor?
What opportunities are you referencing? If there are equal opportunities we would see parallel successes. Why do think that poorer folks volunteer for armed services at a higher rate than middle class and higher? Unfortunately there's not equal opportunity for training/education.
If you can't comprehend that opening up millions of jobs will happen if illegal aliens weren't here then I simply can't help you. Just for starters let's start with construction and landscaping of which illegals have flooded those industries. Many blue-collared jobs don't require a lot of training and many of them started as apprentices in training. There would be no discrimination against the poor in that regard. As for the armed services Obama is even pushing for illegal aliens to be able to join. Just another job opportunity in competition with illegal aliens.
This is to my conservative friends in here. Why do so many of you blame the poor for being poor? Surely it can't all be due to bad deoision making, laziness and all? Do you not think that some people are born disadvantaged and cannot escape poverty. Do you hate the poor because it makes you feel better about yourselves?
How can we tackle poverty and ensure that everyone is given a chance in life?
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Originally Posted by ChrisFromChicago
Personally. . well some conservatives are stupid. Those who directly "blame the poor" as you noted.
Most are not. The issue is not the blame, the issue is the solution.
A conservative looks at the United States, the world and sees a time of golden prosperity. People live longer, less likely to die or injury from war, less crime, and innovation. We feed more with less. . .
A conservative knows that based on the data the way we got here is not through minimum wages or welfare programs. It has been through things that seem counter productive to someone who only looks at where they want to go. We have raised all boats by following adam smith
It is our common GREED that has helped us get where we are. Not looking at someone and saying "how bad it is" but instead float all boats.
A conservative knows its painful to climb; but hands a ladder
a progressive knows its painful to climb; tells a man he shouldn't; and kicks the ladder out from under him
Conservatives love the poor more than most liberals, because they are the ones actually building a economy where poor can climb out of the hole they are in.
sorry amy but chris is right. conservatives dont hate the poor, in fact we are more than willing to help them achieve the goals they want to set themselves in life. but that doesnt mean we are just going to give them a bunch of money every month. what we want to do is help them get into their own business and make something of themselves.
or help them get the education they need to become what they want to be. but in the end we can only do so much for them, they have to step up to the plate and do for themselves at some point in time, otherwise all the effort is wasted.
if poor people want to become rich, they must do what the rich people do to get there. in other words stop buying stuff because they want it. for instance why buy a 64" flat screen TV when a 32" will do nicely and is a lot cheaper. want to get rich? start you own business and work the long hours needed to make it a success. then when the time comes, expand your business. and by the way, keep that old sedan running rather than buy a new car. if the ranch style house you are living in is still serving you well, why move to a large house just because you can afford it?
the poor are that way for a reason, generally because they constantly make bad decisions in life. just a few different decisions here and there and their lot in life is much different.
How can we tackle poverty and ensure that everyone is given a chance in life?
Poverty was tackled with EBT and WIC and tax credits and other benefits, and no longer exists unless you're living under a bridge or in a car. You can buy as many luxury baby strollers and Obamaphones as you can.
Why is the left so obsessed with what the Joneses have--so carried away thinking about what others have, that they don't? Where is all the progressive left's obsession with stuff coming from? The wandering eye ever ready to keep score?
This is to my conservative friends in here. Why do so many of you blame the poor for being poor? Surely it can't all be due to bad deoision making, laziness and all? Do you not think that some people are born disadvantaged and cannot escape poverty. Do you hate the poor because it makes you feel better about yourselves?
How can we tackle poverty and ensure that everyone is given a chance in life?
The poor who do not fit into that category today will not be poor tomorrow.
Life happens. Those who are not lazy. Are not poor decision makers. Are not quitters. Are not victims. They will not be poor long.
Some nice responses by some of the Republicans here.
To be fair though....some of you do hate the poor, but its in the minority. I think sometimes our disagreements are:
1% of some group takes advantage of the system
Republicans suggest doing things that punish all of the group
And people think that you must hate the poor. No, you hate the 1% thats taking advantage....and you don't know of any way to target that smaller group.
Poverty was tackled with EBT and WIC and tax credits and other benefits, and no longer exists unless you're living under a bridge or in a car. You can buy as many luxury baby strollers and Obamaphones as you can.
Why is the left so obsessed with what the Joneses have--so carried away thinking about what others have, that they don't? Where is all the progressive left's obsession with stuff coming from? The wandering eye ever ready to keep score?
Oh look, someone who doesnt know the definition of poverty, or how many we have.
We do in fact have people living under bridges....and in cars.
If you can't comprehend that opening up millions of jobs will happen if illegal aliens weren't here then I simply can't help you. Just for starters let's start with construction and landscaping of which illegals have flooded those industries. Many blue-collared jobs don't require a lot of training and many of them started as apprentices in training. There would be no discrimination against the poor in that regard. As for the armed services Obama is even pushing for illegal aliens to be able to join. Just another job opportunity in competition with illegal aliens.
I don't disagree with you about the impact of the undocumentes on many cities. The President has never proposed a plan which would allow them to enlist in the armed services. That may be a by product for the dreamers, I don't know.
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