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Critical thinking and you use a sample size of one? Should we find a video of a black attacking officers that don't shoot him?
Yes, please find just one. Find footage of a black man or woman physically fighting with a police officer (like the white man in the video) without the officer drawing their gun.
You can look at the racial breakdown of police killings of civilians (506 so far this year) in your state or the entire country at the following interactive, which also provides details and a description of the circumstances under which each civilian was killed by the police. You can also filter the results by if the victim was armed/unarmed and by other factors.
144 of the 506 killed were black, killed by police at over twice the rate of white people.
109 of the 506 people killed by police were unarmed. The U.S. is crazy.
Many cases are just bizarre, like an unarmed white man in Idaho who was recently shot dead by police after a traffic stop in which he "danced around", and because he got out of his car and "walked with purpose."
Also, if someone is suicidal in your home, don't call the police, because the police response seems to be to come to the home and shoot the person dead.
All I'm gonna say, black men are perceived as threats before they are perceived as people, thanks to media portrayal. This leads to situations like the OP talks about. This is my observation as a black man.
The same applies to black women and black children too. Notice that the white police officer in McKinney, TX chose the darkest girl of the group to abuse. There's a reason for that...
This problem is in no way limited to blacks! Eminently decent people are being harassed, extorted, assaulted, kidnapped, murdered, and even raped, on a pretty regular basis and with impunity by a predatory gang of criminals that happen to have badges. The culprit is not “society” or “white people” or “racism” or “capitalism”.
Racism? Out of control cops are the enemy of your race alright. Mine too, and I’m white. They are the enemy of the human race. They prey on all of us, and this perpetual distraction of things like #BlackLivesMatter only signals to your white skinned fellow victims that this is not their problem. A falsehood that dooms your cause if it ever hoped to find a solution. As long as people are free to believe that police are primarily gunning down blacks, and that this is the real issue, then they will be free to assume that they are gunning down blacks because of their lifestyle, and that white society can sit comfortably while that happens. This is false, white people are being taxed and regulated into oblivion while they obediently do as they are told and avoid the direct physical confrontations that go on in your communities.
It is no better that the white man is threatened with violence by the State and obeys, avoiding direct physical confrontation, than it is that a black man disobeys and is killed. The crime is the same, it is aggression. If a white man pays $30,000/year in taxes to avoid police breaking into his home, killing all who resist, and taking the survivors off to prison, he is as much a victim as a black man who suffers that violence at the hands of the same revenuers. If a white man is told to turn in his guns, and obeys to avoid armed conflict, he is no less a victim than Freddie Gray was when the police came to disarm him, no less than was Tamir Rice when police came to disarm him, the crime is identical and race is a mere distraction. Go do some research into the incident in Waco, Texas with the Branch Davidians and the more recent attach on "bikers". Look into Ruby Ridge, Carl Drega, Kelly Thomas, the list could go on forever.
Saying that the problem is race only distracts from the very obvious problem of corrupt, out of control cops!
Many people believe the police have every right to use excessive force, if they happen to feel threatened while attempting to make an arrest.
Take a look at the below video. The white guy in the video refuses to place his arm behind his back. As a result of his non compliance, he is ultimately tasered. But interestingly, the taser doesn't subdue the suspect. He becomes more violent and literary fights w/ both officers. The man appears to be a serious threat, but for some odd reason, both officers make a conscious decision not to use their weapons.
Let's be honest, if the perpetrator in the video was a black man or a black woman, the outcome would be very different (and most would side with the officers). Michael Brown was shot, along with many other black men and women, without hesitation. Do you deny that one's race usually plays a very important role in determining whether or not the police use excessive force? There are so many incidents which seem to suggest that race is ultimately the deciding factor. What are you thoughts?
What police actually do is totally different than what the research findings suggest. There are ample cases in the U.S. of the police shooting black "suspects" without any hesitation.
Anyhow, I notice that you didn't bother to actually comment on the video. Just admit that if he was either a black man or a black woman, the police would have used deadly force.
It is correct that blacks are often treated with a heavier hand by police. People who benefit from that (benefit via their privilege) have a strong incentive to do one of two things:
1. Claim that it is simply not true
2. Claim that it is true but it is ok.
We see a lot of that on this thread. A larger issue is that poor people, regardless of race, are treated with a heavier hand by police. I support police oversight commissions and I also support harsh penalties for police that abuse their power in any way, shape or form. The police that busted into the pot shop and smoked it....should be FIRED, their pensions REVOKED, they should incur JAIL TIME.
It is easy to not worry about police injustices when you feel that they would not target you, but with the way this country is going EVERYONE who is not filthy rich could be targeted by the police who will kill by shooting you in the back, then kick a taser near your body.
Additionally, when police do not police their own (11 cops stood by to watch the McKinney cop fool), there are serious problems.
Replace 'race' with 'class' and you get a much larger group of people willing to support the cause.
Many people believe the police have every right to use excessive force, if they happen to feel threatened while attempting to make an arrest.
Take a look at the below video. The white guy in the video refuses to place his arm behind his back. As a result of his non compliance, he is ultimately tasered. But interestingly, the taser doesn't subdue the suspect. He becomes more violent and literary fights w/ both officers. The man appears to be a serious threat, but for some odd reason, both officers make a conscious decision not to use their weapons.
Let's be honest, if the perpetrator in the video was a black man or a black woman, the outcome would be very different (and most would side with the officers). Michael Brown was shot, along with many other black men and women, without hesitation. Do you deny that one's race usually plays a very important role in determining whether or not the police use excessive force? There are so many incidents which seem to suggest that race is ultimately the deciding factor. What are you thoughts?
It is correct that blacks are often treated with a heavier hand by police. People who benefit from that (benefit via their privilege) have a strong incentive to do one of two things:
1. Claim that it is simply not true
2. Claim that it is true but it is ok.
We see a lot of that on this thread. A larger issue is that poor people, regardless of race, are treated with a heavier hand by police. I support police oversight commissions and I also support harsh penalties for police that abuse their power in any way, shape or form. The police that busted into the pot shop and smoked it....should be FIRED, their pensions REVOKED, they should incur JAIL TIME.
It is easy to not worry about police injustices when you feel that they would not target you, but with the way this country is going EVERYONE who is not filthy rich could be targeted by the police who will kill by shooting you in the back, then kick a taser near your body.
Additionally, when police do not police their own (11 cops stood by to watch the McKinney cop fool), there are serious problems.
Replace 'race' with 'class' and you get a much larger group of people willing to support the cause.
I agree w/ you to an extent. But honestly, it's not purely class based for black folks, because middle, upper income and even rich blacks are treated with a heavier hand (to use your words) by police. -Race plays a very important role in this.
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Should we find a video of a black attacking officers that don't shoot him?