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Old 06-13-2015, 10:52 AM
 
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I'm focused on the claim made by the OP and his link.

Along with Republican govenors for purposefully not expanding medicaid that would cause more people to have insurance.

You don't understand cause and effect. When you do everything in your power to make sure ACA doesn't work, it's not surprising that it doesn't work like it's supposed. But fortunately you and your ilk are sheep so they keep pulling wool over your eyes while not offering any viable solutions.
Ahh, the new Democratic lie that keeps on giving. That only covers less than 10% of the uninsured numbers left, and it was NEVER sold to add everyone to Medicaid.

Try a new lie.. that ones getting very very old..
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Old 06-13-2015, 10:53 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Is that not what you started doing to this thread....
No I asked the OP to quantify the claim he made and his article makes. His link and ascertion is that liberals are in la la land and think ACA is "fine and dandy". I am simplying wondering how that conclusion was reached since it's the basis of the opinion piece and the OP.

...Generally the opening paragraph sets the tone for the entire article. Pghqest took the last sentence of my response and twisted it.
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Old 06-13-2015, 10:53 AM
 
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Obamacare isn't the puppies and rainbows supporters claimed it would be and it's not the doomsday scenario that opponents claimed it would be either.
This. ^^ It's done a lot of good things, but it's not perfect by any means. Leftists will admit the second part of that statement but rightists will absolutely not admit to the first part.
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Old 06-13-2015, 10:55 AM
 
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Signed, obama....
LOLOL. That's cute, you are ignorant about the structure of the government. It takes republicans working with Obama to fully implement ACA and did that happen?
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Old 06-13-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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Obamacare isn't the puppies and rainbows supporters claimed it would be and it's not the doomsday scenario that opponents claimed it would be either.
In reality, all it did was change who was insured while increasing standards for coverage, and costs.. It didnt really fix anything.
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Old 06-13-2015, 10:58 AM
 
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This. ^^ It's done a lot of good things, but it's not perfect by any means. Leftists will admit the second part of that statement but rightists will absolutely not admit to the first part.

Yup. I consider myself on the right and it was a step in the right direction. If the Supreme Court rules the tax subsidies invalid, the GOP should use that as leverage to make the law better. Hell, they should cut a deal where they restore the subsidies and get their reform ideas into the law and throw in the Keystone pipeline as a sweetener.
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Old 06-13-2015, 10:59 AM
 
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LOLOL. That's cute, you are ignorant about the structure of the government. It takes republicans working with Obama to fully implement ACA and did that happen?
As the famous poster once said
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Well when you can't lead, all you can do is complain.
Who am I to argue..
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Old 06-13-2015, 10:59 AM
 
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No I asked the OP to quantify the claim he made and his article makes. His link and ascertion is that liberals are in la la land and think ACA is "fine and dandy". I am simplying wondering how that conclusion was reached since it's the basis of the opinion piece and the OP.

...Generally the opening paragraph sets the tone for the entire article. Pghqest took the last sentence of my response and twisted it.
Exactly, you are focusing on 1 problem presented, not the rest....
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Old 06-13-2015, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I know that some people are benefitting but everyone in my family has been harmed significantly by Obama I don't care.
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Old 06-13-2015, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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ObamaCare's supporters would like everyone to believe that with Healthcare.gov now functioning, everything is just fine and dandy.
That's not true. It really hurts your position when you start off with a lie. But please, provide some information to quantify your opening statement.
So you're saying that even Obamacare supporters think it isn't working, nice to see you admit it for a change.

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Far righties tactic.... Pick and choose a sentence in a response to focus on then twist and put words in their mouth. Bravo.

Obama isn't a failure, but he isn't a good leader.
That's rich considering that's exactly what you did.
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