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Hopefully the higher penalties will spur more people to enroll. Hopefully, people demand a solution that involves more than setting standards and requiring folks to have healthcare. Healthcare is an expensive modern cost, hopefully people will see what this stuff actually and start asking why.
Ahh, see once again, thats the problem with ACA..
The rising penalties, if it was indeed going ot encourage more to enroll, that means the deficits from ACA are even going to be larger than anticipated and there wont be anyway to pay for all the new Medicaid enrollees..
it cant insure everyone, and then tax people who dont have insurance, while reducing deficits, because once again, the math does not work and NEVER did...
Democrats though actually never figured that out..
Because democratic strategies suck. And what have the republican house and senate accomplished? They can't seem to even be able to work together to do what their constituents voted them in for. Healthcare? Immigration? Lets just kick that can down the road until the primaries..... LOLOLOLZ.
Just the strategies, LOL...they blew it because of all the crap they were pulling...
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Well it does beg the question.... Healtcare has become the biggest spender of tax money.... It's funny how Republicans campaigned on the deficit from 2008-2012 but haven't been able to produce legislation to address the biggest factor in our deficit.........
What could they do? They propose legislation and reid would table it, even when it was passed bi-partisan...
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That and it would help Republicans provide solutions and compromises....
Why should the repubs compromise anything? Why do the rpubs have to fix anything? You and your fellow dems screwed the pooch....now you are so mad, you cannot even see that YOU screwed up and want the reupbs to fix it...
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Well when you can't lead, all you can do is complain.
Gruber....Gruber....or lie...(reid) and lie some more, it's all the repubs fault....even when it's not true...but the grubers of the world, will believe it just as you do...
LOLOL. That's cute, you are ignorant about the structure of the government. It takes republicans working with Obama to fully implement ACA and did that happen?
Ignorant, hell the DEMS passed the law without a single repub, appears you are the ignorant person in this conversation. What the hell could the repubs compromise on, when they did not vote for it...
Your ignorance is noted.
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The problem with ACA is there is too much welfare, and not enough incentive to pay out of pocket, and if everyone got insurance, as was promised, there wouldnt be any tax money to pay for the handouts..
LOLOL. That's cute, you are ignorant about the structure of the government. It takes republicans working with Obama to fully implement ACA and did that happen?
Please list for us what sections of ACA Republicans stopped from implementing.
So, basically what we have here in this thread, the dems passed a flawed law (that's the repubs fault) It does not cover everyone, like it was sold on (that's also the repubs fault). The entire problem is the repubs fault because they cannot come up with a solution to fix what the dems voted into law...
Please list for us what sections of ACA Republicans stopped from implementing.
I'll wait while you find another excuse..
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Originally Posted by dv1033 LOLOL. That's cute, you are ignorant about the structure of the government. It takes republicans working with Obama to fully implement ACA and did that happen?
Also note how they failed to even address the subject....it's all the repubs fault...
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Originally Posted by Roadking2003 ObamaCare's supporters would like everyone to believe that with Healthcare.gov now functioning, everything is just fine and dandy.
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That's not true. It really hurts your position when you start off with a lie. But please, provide some information to quantify your opening statement.
You avoided the major content of the OP with this?
BTW, the statement is well qualified by claims on these very pages about everyday.
The ACA did exactly what it was supposed to do. Eliminate the majority of insurance companies, so there is no going back, then fail so that a single payer system can be implemented. The ACA was designed to fail.
I doubt anyone was capable of planning that much.
My own guess is that it's like the early days of any centralized health system, filled with flaws that'll get painted over during the decades. The main problem may well be that the 'design' came late in the day, in an era when big Pharma and big Healthcare are hoovering up some serious dosh. Most of the European systems pre-date any huge political strength (and $$$$) in care providers.
Without any deep knowledge in the negotiations between Democratic politicians, Democratic staff, insurance companies, unions, and Big Health (you can see who was left out here), what I see as strategic flaws are as follows:
. A hubris-filled attempt to build a system from scratch because everyone is a genius. I'd sooner they just lifted another country's program, warts and all, since they usually have been polished up for 50 years.
. A fixation on insurance rather than reduction in cost.
The problems with websites, etc. are small beer.
My guess is that the upcoming tsunami will be the actual cost of the subsidies.
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