Isn't transracial just as logical as transgender? (federal government, federal, homosexual)
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I just don't buy this distinction. It's basically saying that transgender people are legit because they have more biological differences. Who gets to determine where that line is drawn?
You're getting way off track. I don't even know what you're asking.
All I'm saying is that "transracialism" (if it were even an actual thing) and "transgenderism" are not equals. One reason is because there is no discernible difference between the races like there is between the genders. The biggest differences between all people of all races is the fact that some are biologically male and some are biologically female. Regardless of race, every male has male sex organs and those organs, in conjunction with hormones and other interactions within the body, function the same way. Same with females and their respective parts. Regardless of skin color or the shape of our noses or eyes or whatever we are genetically predisposed to, we are all humans. We are the same. Our bodies work the same way. We can reproduce with whomever we want to because race doesn't matter in determining our species and our bodies.
If people want to be "transracial" - whatever. Do what you want. I don't care. You can even call it that if you want. But the thread asks if it is logical to equate "transracialism" with transgenderism, and I'm saying that it is not. Because there are no biological differences between races (none that matter besides the petty little "but Asians are short! Blacks are more likely to get sickle cell anemia! Whites have less melanin than blacks!" - that second one came from me actually, no one else here said it, but it is true), and the idea that race matters is a social construct, the two cannot be the same. A 3 year old who is transgender will recognize it, but not be able to explain it at that age, while a 3 year old white girl playing with a three year old black girl will not care or likely even notice that her playmate is black until told otherwise.
Because the idea that race matters and makes us distinct is taught to us, the idea of wanting to become a different race must be learned. Once you realize race exists, and certain races have certain stereotypes or certain cultures, that's when you can want to "become" someone else - and it's only likely after exposure. You cannot be born wanting to become another race when you are the same as a black or Asian or white person, other than gender. What's there to become? You're all people. You're equivalent to one another, you just look different. You can't be born stuck in an Asian body if you're white and no one in your family history ever has been Asian and therefore isn't carrying any Asian genes. It doesn't make sense. This is why I say people are confusing race for culture. You can, later in life, want to become part of another culture, maybe one that belongs to another race than your own, which I'm totally fine with. Identify as whatever race or ethnicity you want. In some cases, it would make total sense to me, like if you're a white woman who married a black man and has biracial kids. Makes sense.
But meanwhile, that three year old boy feels like a girl regardless of what he understands or what he is told. The race thing didn't happen at birth, the gender thing did because sex is determined sometime after conception, and nature is not foolproof. A person in the womb, regardless of race, will become either male or female. A 100% white person in the womb cannot become Asian. So it is not the same thing.
I've always been fascinated with Roman culture, so should I start declaring Italian ancestry and click the "white" box from now on?
I also love Japanese history and culture. I wonder if I could get away with the asian thing too, even though my african ancestry is clearly present, especially with my natural hair. LOL!!
Damn you Rachel!!!
I can't even be serious when discussing this woman.
Yet every story of a transgender person I have ever heard gone public, either through blog posts, news articles, opinion articles, or TV/news interviews, involves the chid knowing before he or she even entered kindergarten. In many cases, the parents also knew from the time their child was that very young age. Seems the transgender, oftentimes even gay, feelings occur during early childhood, for both the child and the parents. You know early on. This isn't something you make up one day. No one WANTS to make something like this up, given the social stigma and how much harder it makes living life for that person, feeling trapped in another body or liking those of the same sex.
Yet for "transrace", it doesn't necessarily have to come out in childhood? But it's "just as logical" as transgender, to quote the title of this thread?
Also, for the person who spoke of "facts" and quoted that doctor, I would love for anyone to show me a documented case of a "transracial" person, preferably one who knew from age 5 or so that he or she was "supposed to be *insert race*" rather than his or her actual race. Please show me any study that examines the idea of transracism. It seems this idea just popped up out of nowhere when this Rachel Dolezal thing came out. Before then, I had never heard of "transracism." So if people like me should not share my opinion as if it's fact, how about everyone else do the same. Please show me evidence. Show me any documented case or study that attempts to explain this new idea of "transracism" and linking it to transgenderism.
There is being transrace like Rachel, starting around college, whatever her motives - okay I'm fine with that. But then there is identifying with that "true race" at a young age, like those who are transgender identify with their true gender at a young age. So for this thread's title to be true, for transracism to be just as logical as trangenderism, I think someone needs to provide evidence that transracism occurs similarly to transgenderism. Studies looking into biological causes, whether they were validated or not (the research into it alone is intriguing and shows the thought is there), and studies documenting and explaining cases of transracial children who know from a young age they are supposed to be another race.
Dolezal stated that she used brown crayons at 5 years old to color pictures of herself.
Since I happen to believe that race is a social construct, I really don't care what race people assign to themselves.
I believe this too.
Unfortunately, there aren't more people that believe as we do about this nonsense.
And I do want racial quotas gone. ALL OF THEM.
So that whites who DON'T get a job or in the school they want can STOP blaming it on "quotas" and (insert name of ANY minority here) taking their spot.
Dolezal stated that she used brown crayons at 5 years old to color pictures of herself.
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Originally Posted by FinsterRufus
I heard her say that too.
But she's a known liar. Soooo...
I used brown crayons to draw myself and my family when I was 5. Sometimes it was all that was available. Sometimes I colored the brown very very lightly so it would look tan. Sometimes I colored myself red and purple, too.
I'm white. Always have been white. Always have "felt" white.
Plus… she is a liar. At this point, people should be questioning every claim she makes about her past.
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