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Old 06-17-2015, 04:57 AM
 
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So wait.....H-1b visas that are LEGAL are under scrutiny by lefties while MILLIONS of ILLEGALS are okay?

The new sanity is the old insanity.
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Old 06-17-2015, 06:13 AM
 
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Old 06-17-2015, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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If you weren't a right-winger, I'd take your post as sarcasm, but since you are you are actually being serious. Considering that 99% of right-wingers on here think we need to "compete" with developing nations, I'd thought I'd let you know the prevailing worldwide wage is a few thousand dollars a year
A few thousand dollars a year is not the prevailing global wage for IT workers.
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Old 06-17-2015, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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So wait.....H-1b visas that are LEGAL are under scrutiny by lefties while MILLIONS of ILLEGALS are okay?

The new sanity is the old insanity.
Only 4 states have made e- Verify the law for all employees. Why is this?

Alabama is one of those states. Crops rotted in the fields. Then they tried prison work forces. They did not perform well.

Walmart will buy their watermelons from growers in other states that ignore employment laws so they can continue to offer consumers jumbo watermelons for $7.99, in season.

U.S. Agriculture has recruited and imported foreign labor for 100 years to harvest the crops. and some of the recruits stay.
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Old 06-17-2015, 07:58 AM
 
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A few thousand dollars a year is not the prevailing global wage for IT workers.
No, but a very huge chunk of IT workers in the world are from India. They usually make about 50% the money an equivalent top tier OECD nation pays that particular IT employee. That 50% is being very generous.
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Old 06-17-2015, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Only 4 states have made e- Verify the law for all employees. Why is this?

Alabama is one of those states. Crops rotted in the fields. Then they tried prison work forces. They did not perform well.

Walmart will buy their watermelons from growers in other states that ignore employment laws so they can continue to offer consumers jumbo watermelons for $7.99, in season.

U.S. Agriculture has recruited and imported foreign labor for 100 years to harvest the crops. and some of the recruits stay.
The IT world really doesn't need to worry that much about illegals trying to take their jobs.
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Old 06-17-2015, 09:56 AM
 
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The IT world really doesn't need to worry that much about illegals trying to take their jobs.
Exactly. E-Verify is mostly for unskilled jobs. In IT, it's the overuse of H1Bs; E-Verify is not going to change a thing.
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Old 06-17-2015, 10:19 AM
 
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No, but a very huge chunk of IT workers in the world are from India. They usually make about 50% the money an equivalent top tier OECD nation pays that particular IT employee. That 50% is being very generous.
That's for offshore. If they bring them here via H1-B they have to pay more.
But they go through an agency so it's a flat fee. And even comparable salary for an H1-B is still cheaper because the company does not have to pay any benefits. Their total labor cost is greatly reduced.
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Old 06-17-2015, 10:33 AM
 
Location: SC
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Disney (an American Icon) probably realized the backlash from Americans who refuse to visit their parks would hurt. I am also pretty sure this reversal will only be as long as the press is watching - then instead of mass firings, they will do it a little at a time so as not to look like money grubbing traitors.

If they had gone through with this as originally planned, I could see another institution dead in a few years. Many may disagree (flame if you like - still won't make it not true), but I have never seen a great FOREIGN dominated IT department. The issues of nepotism, false credentials, domineering management style, and lack of cultural awareness soon overtake the benefits of lower salary and the famous American independent thought processes (creativity).
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Old 06-17-2015, 10:43 AM
 
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That's for offshore. If they bring them here via H1-B they have to pay more.
But they go through an agency so it's a flat fee. And even comparable salary for an H1-B is still cheaper because the company does not have to pay any benefits. Their total labor cost is greatly reduced.
Don't forget that employees on H1-B are tied to the employer. Puts the workers in a negotiation position much preferred by corporate America: Work on our conditions or leave the country.
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